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United Kingdom
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I was browsing a car boot sale last week (garage sale for Americans.) One man had a stall with lots of modern coins and this. I immediately saw the 1893 and thought there's no way he's selling that at a stall. I asked how much and he said £5. Well, it was worth £5 for me to have a fake that I can 1.) take off the market, and 2.) keep so that I fully know what one could look like. The seller said he knew nothing about coins and shrugged. Yeah right, everyone knows to google a coin before selling it and everyone surely knows that a real one would have silver in it worth more than £5. Anyway, I bought it knowing it was a fake. It weighs 26.53 grams, diameter and thickness are correct. But you tell me, by looking at the photos, how can you tell this is a fake? :)   |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Yes, I can tell it's not a USA dollar at just a first glance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First glance fake. Common characteristics of a counterfeit including small casting bubbles on the surface, lack of luster, and mushy details.
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Valued Member
Germany
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The surface ist just totally off.
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Moderator
 United States
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A nice one for your black cabinet. Good on you for getting it out of the marketplace.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Everything about the coin looks off. The 3 in the date looks like it's been filled with helium.
The vast majority of these are not silver. This one has the color of a base metal. How did you measure the thickness and what result did you get in mm?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Measured with vernier calipers to be about 2.4mm but I ordered some electronic verniers to be more accurate. Also did a ring test and its surprisingly similar to a real one but not as high pitched and doesn't last as long as a real one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The parallel striations all across the obverse first caught my eye, as a sign of a laser-etched die. You'd think if they put that much effort into it they'd do a better job, considering that the pebbled surface texture screams fake.
Edit: While I applaud your intention to "take it off the market", he probably bought it for £1 and has more. That's a heck of a profit margin. I'd be curious if you go back next week if he's selling another one.
Edited by kbbpll
09/02/2022 6:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Also checking out vamworld could help... Some fakes just don't match up to any known vams. And besides, this one of yours has that gunmetal gray color so typical of counterfeits...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Everything looks wrong..
The color, letters, numbers.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It can be readily identified as a fake but to a neophyte collector I'd say it's pretty deceptive. The weight is only 0.2 grams light, the casting bubbles are few and small, and the overall design is fairly well done. I have an 1893-S fake with a similar look. That one however only weighs about 21 grams. The counterfeiters continue to up their game.  |
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United States
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Very fake. Date gives it away
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