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1792 Half Disme PCGS Vs You

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 Posted 09/04/2022  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have noticed that coins sold at major auctions are more likely to be overgraded than coins without auction histories. Do you guys (and gals) think I am crazy for seeing a connection here?


Not crazy at all! I also believe that major auction companies have "pull" with the grading companies that regular smucks like us can only dream about. The old grading company adage "Grading is completely anonymous" went out the window many years ago!
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 Posted 09/05/2022  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoffeeTime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF. There is clear wearing on her hair and the wings on the reverse.
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 Posted 09/05/2022  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF45
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 Posted 09/05/2022  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF45 maybe AU50
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 Posted 09/05/2022  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS called it EF(45). I love the full planchet, the original surfaces, and the complete lack of problems that is difficult to find on this particular coin. I will never be able to purchase one of these, but if I was choosing between this one and one of the AU ones in straight graded holders I have seen online at auctions, I would prefer this one.
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Well I was way off, but this is one knockout coin!
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 Posted 09/06/2022  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just learned today that it was Thomas Jefferson, not George Washington, who had the 1792 Half Dismes made. Apparently, his records of his spending are quite thorough and he had 75 dollars worth of these made (1,500 coins) and spent them himself between July and October 1792! It means that whoever owns these probably has a coin that Jefferson himself spent (or gave in tips). This is fascinating!
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Jefferson had them minted by John Harper in Philadelphia and the silver bullion for the coins was in the form of 75 Mexican silver dollars contributed by TJ. Legend had it that Martha Washington gave her sterling tea set and other silver for the production of these coins, but that has proven to be unfounded and it is now believed, based on TJ's notes, that he provided the bullion and spent some of the coins as he traveled back to Monticello.
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 Posted 09/06/2022  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Late to the party. A killer example and one that's on my non achievable bucket list. I had this at AU50, and would also take it over a good number the of the recent auction sales. The MS68 example is quite a site in person. I spent way too long staring at it at the ANA museum when we visited last year.
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As a Half Dime collector this would be an amazing addition, but will never happen sadly. I was going to say AU 55. Beautiful example. Undergraded in my opinion.
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 Posted 09/15/2022  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is almost certainly undergraded.
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