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New Member
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 Keep in mind this is an 1829 N-5 and often has a weak strike on both obverse and reverse
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New Member
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Here are two PCGS grades examples of N-5 s with the grades ....  
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Bedrock of the Community
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Good grief, think I'll sit this one out.  to the CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
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 I don't see this example close to the AU-58s. You coin has certainly circulated for a while. Reverse is nicer than the obverse. XF-40 tops for me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I dunno, OP's coin looks at least the equal of the other two.
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Pillar of the Community
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i think the first coin is a really nice VF. I think market XF would be reasonable.
the hair curl is worn into the shoulder and all the high points on the wreath show wear.
the au examples both show a ton for luster in the fields that arent present on the coin in question.
Bill Noyes's census reports a single ms and 2 au. there are 7 xfs. I dont think this coin is condition census. it is just below it.
my 29-5 is a vg, so this one is quite a bit nicer than my example. sweet coin. thanks for sharing.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm at EF-45 on this one but AU would not surprise me.
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Quote: OP's coin looks at least the equal of the other two. Perhaps in detail, but not in wear. I think the OP's coin was struck fairly well. A slightly earlier die state as well.
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Bedrock of the Community
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gotta remember we are looking at a trueview. drop that grade folks (well almost always)
Trueview (AU50) my grade XF45. nice example.
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New Member
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 Here it is, I was pretty disappointed. I thought it had a shot at an AU50 even, but at the Very least EF40. Especially after taking 4 months to grade it. I am not sure what to think.... I get that strike doesn't come into play when grading....but shouldn't it count for something? This variety is exceeding rare in higher grades well struck. Toning counts towards a grade shouldn't strike? Another piece of the puzzle here is I feel like PCGS, and other TPGS, base grades somewhat on WHO is sending it in... This was sent in under the coupons that you get "free" when you join. Anyone else notice this trend? The other part that bugs me about this it that PCGS tends to get super conservative around price inflection points....in this instance EF 40 is worth $1,000 more than a VF35.....so there is hesitancy to dole out a 40 VS a 35. Probably just me having sour grapes, but I don't think I will be sending any more coins to PCGS. Now the question is ....do I crack this out and send it to NGC? I plan on selling it....but at PCGS list price for a VF35, I am underwater
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Pillar of the Community
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there are a total of 10 coins that the EAC community has graded xf or better for this variety. your coin isn't nicer than any of them. even if you had gotten it into a higher graded holder you would struggle to get that condition census money. the people buying condition census variety large cents know how to grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think VF-35 is fair for the coin. Quote: Toning counts towards a grade shouldn't strike? Strike should not count toward a grade, neither should toning. But TPGs tend to market grade coins instead of having people judge coins for themselves.
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New Member
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  Here is the only other VF 35 PCGS graded Medium letters I can find
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yours looks much nice than a VF-35.
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I'll say this: I had a gorgeous glossy one of these, and at an EAC convention I asked "Del" what he'd grade it. "F-15" he said before scurrying away. I thought that was kind-of low, but he was THE grader... so I sold it about an hour later for full F15 "Copper Quotes" price. An hour after that the purchaser comes back, and excitedly tells me that "Del" graded it VF30. Same 29N5 coin, same grader, two hours later and about $400 difference.
Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 09/05/2022 4:25 pm
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