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Hello, I saw this coin for sale in a bag of mostly junk. The bag is €23. I am very unfamiliar with this coin and could not tell variants, etc. I am just starting to learn silver coin grades, so this one, being copper-nickel, is well outside my limited base of knowledge. Any thoughts would be appreciated!   Edited by Roma2021
09/04/2022 4:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You will need close up photos of areas in question to get opinions on possible varieties.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't have an adequate photo for that; mostly, I am just looking for grade and opinion. The collar looks pointed, which I have read can indicate an 'L'. I haven't handled many IHC, so just trying to form an informed opinion. |
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The coin you've posted is not silver. It appears to be an 1864 CN, Copper-Nickel. Indian cent. IMHO, it's in FINE condition, having a readable LIBERTY in the headband. I'd gauge its worth at about $25. Only some of the later 1864 copper/bronze issues have the added L initial for Longacre, the designer. On coins that are fine or better, the L on the ribbon is usually strong in appearance. Edited by ExoGuy
09/04/2022 4:44 pm
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Italy
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Hi @exo. Thank you. I know very well this is not silver. Maybe my initial message was unclear, I will go back and edit. I meant to say something to the effect of ... I am just starting to learn silver, so anything outside of silver is well well outside of my understanding.
Thanks. I may go back and get the bag at 23 euro....
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Bedrock of the Community
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Seems to have some darker areas, so perhaps stained or with ED. Not choice for grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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The CN Indians have a "silvery" color, as does your pic, so I thought you were referring to the coin you'd posted. If the coin is actually copper, without the L. it's worth about $20. If it's copper and has a clear L, it's a $60+ coin.
Happy hunting!
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09/04/2022 5:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Thank you both for your reply.
@coinfrog, most of the coins in the bag were coppers that had clearly been cleaned or polished or oiled or soaked. I've mentioned this countless times in several other posts . . . but cleaning coins is VERY popular here. I didn't get the impression this coin had ED, but possibly cleaned. It had a more silvery color in hand - although, of course :), I know it isn't silver. @Exo said it perfectly... 'silvery'. I don't think, from my brief look, the 'L' was visible.
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Pillar of the Community
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To be clear, the copper-nickel variety which has a silvery color, does NOT exhibit an L. The bronze or copper varieties followed, first one without the L, and lastly one with the L. The L then remained through the last year, 1909.
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Pillar of the Community
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So I picked up the bag today... It weighs appox. 4.6 and diameter is right. Going to go through the rest of the bag and see what's what...   |
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Really just echoing previous comments at this point, but with the better pictures, It is certainly a Copper Nickel 1864, it does have some environmental issues on the reverse, and i'd put it around $15.
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Just out of curiosity... What causes the black environmental issue? I've seen this on some old coppers. I get carbon spots on silver... Also on copper?
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