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Homer Scroll And Papyrus Fragments

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Thought I'd share my Greek Smyrna coin with obv. Apollo, reverse Homer seated holding scroll 20mm, 2nd-1 cent. BC and my papyrus fragments. Some ancient coins depict scrolls, writing/reading scenes.

In 2006 I bought two papyrus fragments on ebay. A dealer, Bruce Ferrini sold the fragments to Micheal Farr who then sold the fragments on ebay 2005-2007. It's mostly undocumented where Bruce got the fragments, he had purchased from several sources. The Ferrini fragments are genuine. Many fragments sold online are replicas or fakes.

Genuine papyrus fragments are scarce and not often offered for sale. Most papyri were lost to the elements long ago. I think because there were so many Ferrini fragments and people may have thought they were fake, they went for low prices. I paid $40 each for mine. I wish I had bought more. Since then I've seen a few fragments sell in the $200-$400 range.

I sent pics of my fragments to Robert Kraft, professor emeritus UPenn who wrote an article about the Ferrini fragments and confirmed their authenticity. He said mine were Late Roman or Byzantine era with Greek and possible Coptic writing. One of my fragments has several layers and could be taken apart with professional conservation but I don't want to do that.

The fragments measure 50mm x 40mm, 57mm x 53mm.



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Great stuff. A good illustration of the fact that, if one proceeds with real caution and does his/her research, there are some authentic antiquities available through honest sellers on ebay. But, overall, it's a minefield where antiquities are concerned. Sadly, some auction platforms - including one that makes a big show of its supposed "experts" who vet items - are just about as bad.

You got a great deal on the papyri, livingwater. Curious to know if they are mounted to the canvas backing, and whether they are framed.
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That is a really cool connection between different parts of your collection. I wonder if you could describe under what conditions you store the papyrus? I would think that they are super-sensitive to humidity and light.
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Thanks for commenting. I used gloves, put the fragments in small picture frames, not taped/glued to anything. I keep them at the bank safety box, humidity/temp controlled. I hope they preserve well since they are rather fragile.
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Thank you for posting-
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You may want to make sure the glass is resistant to UV, even though it is in a safe deposit box. Thanks for posting.

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That's a good idea if I ever decide to display the fragments. I have protective glass 8"x10" I use for my celebrity signature collection which includes Ronald Reagan who I met at a speaking event before he became CA govenor, he signed the program for me.
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