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1982 LMC Large Date Inspection For DDO

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Edit: The original narrative has been changed.

I would like to know if you think this 1982 cent is Wexler's WDDO-004 shown here:
https://doubleddie.com/828781.html

P.S. Please also critique my pics so I know if I am making improvements.

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 Posted 09/13/2022  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you looking at the pictures or just reading the descriptions of these varieties? Because if you looked at a picture of DDO-001, it would be extremely obvious that this is not it. I'm very confused by the way you seem to use these reference sites based on past posts you've made..
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Hi SamCoin, thanks for stopping to look at my thread!

I apologize that you got frustrated with me at that other thread, I know which one you are referring to. But I did learn from that.

Yes I looked at the pictures. This cent jumped out at me when I was sorting because the date actually, did not look normal to me. So I did more investigating under the scope and thought I saw a doubled die but that it might be a subtle class for which I am still trying to learn to recognize. I researched it. I checked V.V. first.

I saw on my cent what I thought were separation lines inside of the lower parts of some devices in IGWT and also some thicker devices on LIBERTY and IGWT. I started to think perhaps I was seeing the typical MD tho, with some circulation PMD mixed in, but I was unable to rule out extra thickening by myself. That is why I put it up here, to get your thoughts.
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I suppose from now on I will omit the narrative.
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Moving on to the other sites, I need to rule out Wexler's WDDO-004
https://doubleddie.com/828781.html
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Looking for circular die scratches at top right Memorial to see if it matches Wexler's WDDO-004
https://doubleddie.com/828781.html

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Scratches off the shoulder


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It's all good centseeker, I'm not frustrated, just a little confused about the way you're using the resources and I feel you could do yourself a favor by just taking better advantage of them.

I do not see separation lines or extra thickness on this coin, just Die Deterioration and light MD. Perhaps spend a little more time familiarizing yourself with the different types of worthless doubling so you know which things can be ruled out? Doubled dies are very rare, so it's not an efficient way to hunt to be spending so much time on coins that don't have obvious doubling when you're starting out.
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I am in Coin Kindergarten ha ha.
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This is a normal large date 1982 cent. When you see the size of the devices, they are normal for the large date. The DDO is showing more of a spread on them:
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Quote:
Doubled dies are very rare, so it's not an efficient way to hunt to be spending so much time on coins that don't have obvious doubling when you're starting out.


Well, I must disagree. I find all of it very fascinating. I am not wasting time at all trying to recognize the subtle classes and I do not consider them worthless because I am not into this for the money (for the most part), it is merely a hobby. I find it very enjoyable. Those subtle thickness classes are quite frustrating but the best way I learn is by looking closely myself to learn by doing so to speak.
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Womp womp...

Thanks coop!
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Looking at coins under the microscope is the definition of crazy.
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Thus why I make side by sides to show the differences. I Make these with the same outside widths. Thus they show the spread on the devices a lot easier.
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Note the spread? See how having a normal coin and a DDO side by side to see even the slightest differences, that they eye would not catch from looking at two different images. But having them side by side, makes all the difference.
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@Coop, those side-by-side graphics are very helpful thank you so much. It is good to know also how some dates/mints actually look a little different to start with although those specific attributes are considered normal, like for various couple years in a row, single squeeze, etc.

I suppose the more coins I run under the microscope, the more I will see what "normal" is, so then when I see one of the subtle thickness classes, it will "click" and then it will sink in.

Likely it will be on a coin that is not so dirty is what I am thinking.

So I guess I will keep doing the same thing over and over again until I get the different result...
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@CentSeeker...for sure your published images are a bit too dark, with too much contrast, but it's pretty easy to improve them with minor levels adjustments. Here's an example:

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Adjusted Image:
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