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1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar Grading Thoughts

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 Posted 09/24/2022  09:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's a coin that I'm considering bidding on. I know that the pictures are far from optimal, but based on these photos from the seller, what would you all estimate the grade of this bust half is? Thanks in advance for everybody's opinions!

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 Posted 09/24/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would have photographed much better out of the 2x2.

I see part of 'PLURIBUS' below the bust, and part of the Eagle's wing behind Lib's hair. (obv.)
Some more detail above Eagle's neck and interference detail in the value characters, - most probably top of Lib's cap. (rev.)
The owner should be well aware of these features, - they are obvious enough.

Otherwise, reasonably well struck.
AU-61.
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09/24/2022 10:23 am
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 Posted 09/24/2022  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me, too much of the right obverse field detail is obscured to get a solid feel on this one.
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Considerint toning, strike, and originality, this is a fantastic coin. This is a great example of the O-107 earlier die state. The two things that worry me are the reverse rim issues from 50C to UNITED, and the scratches on the right obverse field (may not be scratches) and above the eagle. I believe that is grafitti. Otherwise this coin appears to be AU-53 Details. I would ask for better photos.
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 Posted 09/24/2022  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love the strong clashing! I too am at AU details.
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 Posted 09/24/2022  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Check collector.detector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collector.detector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
au58 or au details - graffiti. Awesome clashing.
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Hard to say with these photos of a coin in the 2x2. From what I can see, no worse than AU-58 with a good shot at an MS grade.
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No one has mentioned the clashed die below the bust though that may the the Overton number mentioned. With better pictures, it
should be easier to arrive at a grade. I agree it already looks at worst an AU from what I see.
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 Posted 09/24/2022  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details, scratches (but would really like to see out of the 2x2)
You should contact the seller and ask for photos out of the 2x2
If the seller balks at such a minor request for such an expensive coin, that would be a red flag to me
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Amazing clashing!
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In the obverse field it looks like clashing, right of the eagle's head looks like scratches. Would like pics out of the 2x2 to confirm but I am at AU58, if no details.
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