1859 O Seated Liberty's. Grade Worthy

I do understand and agree. It's my thoughts are similar. My main thought is whatever happens to these coins was years decades ago. If someone knowledge had them then they wouldn't be clean. If a counterfeiter made them with this quality this many years ago and sealed them up, or the unknowledgeable person, something was done long ago that the cardboard stained, staples rust. It's killing ne

my first reaction somethings not right. On closer examination...somethings not right with these. Take them to a pawnshop and have them placed on a sigmapro device, if you can't get access use a rare earth magnet slide, if not that then take a known 90% silver half lay it flat next to these and put an ice cube on all 3. If the icecubes on your two don't go haywire and dance around like the ice cube on a known 90% half then their fake. Ice is not going to make these any worse than they are. I hope I'm wrong and they are both authentic damaged coins.
My LCS has "the box" and in that box is about 20 various counterfeits that fooled him and fooled me, the crooks are getting specialized at counterfeiting his examples were a slap in the face for me. Mix in 3 or 4 with 30-40 other Morgans and Seated Liberty Halfs their easy to miss.