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United States
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The absence of a surrounding recess and the clarity of the normal letters makes it unlikely that this is a floating counterbrockage. The secondary letters seem too prominent to be a floating (Type II) counterclash. I see none of the erratic die damage that's often seen in association with floating counterclashes. The PL of PLURIBUS and the U of UNUM seem flattened. But a flattened appearance is not uncommon in this motto owing to the reduced effective striking pressure opposite the base of Lincoln's bust. These extra letters could have been delivered by a partial fake die. It's possible to impress a coin's design into a small patch of metal, glue that piece of metal to a rod, and then drive that rod into a coin. Then again, if this were the case, I would have expected a greater degree of deformation in the primary design. A final determination would require examination under a microscope. I would be willing to perform such an exam, if you would consent to send the coin to me. It's a very interesting specimen, from any standpoint.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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If you give me the instructions, with pleasure I will send you. I am also glad to know could be an interesting specimen. Please PM freely of any thing.
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10/08/2022 6:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Defiantly interesting. Can't wait for the explanation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great. I feel this coin is definitely worth a write-up in Coin World, no matter what the outcome of my examination. Of course, you will be credited for the find. Error coin writer and researcher.
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Than you again Mike you are a generous person. All my gratitude.
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Valued Member
United States
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For me, this is the most fascinating post of the week. Can't wait to see how this turns out. Very interesting coin, to say the least!
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Moderator
United States
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Awesome news! Thx @md!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Thank you SPENCE. I hope we funded something good for everyone, and open new resource to complete the collections. I hope this because I have one from Ohio and the other from Louisiana. (To prove this: A year ago or more I had a post for the first simple, but in that time I do not looked for those kind of coins.)
We will see the results with no doubt about what it is. Everything could be a win for collecting society.
Edited by silviosi
10/08/2022 10:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi, what came of this amazing post? Did you send out for examination to Mike Diamond, @Silviosi?
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes was send. We will wait for his analysis.
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Pillar of the Community
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I now have Silviosi's coin. The letters are incuse, not raised. They are surrounded by a very shallow, very faint "struck-through" area. There is no doubt in my mind that this is a large, multi-element dropped filling.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
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Very nice error Sil. Me I would grade it AU. Joking. You always say that about my coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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Amazing! Great find, Sil—is this an error of one coin or would there be multiples potentially? https://www.error-ref.com/struck-th...ped_filling/Update: with this error, is one stamping enough to destroy the solidified grease coming out of the die's devices ? Does it get smushed into grease and therefore more likely this is one time event? Edited by shantiom
10/18/2022 11:19 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you Mike for the complex analyzes and so clear explain. We have to give to the Cesar what him own.
@ Willburton: If I give opinion of a coin grade, please believe me I even do not know the name of the poster. I look the coin not the name. I have to agree with you this coin is AU. Please understand me, I do not care who it is the person. If I will care off I will be in conflict of interest with my self and my ethics. Long time I have to fight against diseases and the patient origins or personal relation with, was out of the equation. Same here.
@ Shantiom: I have no idea if could be more, I know somewhere around I have another one almost same, I had to find. If they are, is sure could not be to many. IMHO only Mike can respond to your questions. I am the guy for Design Varieties and Reproduction (fake), Coins Metallurgical and Mint chain production.
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10/18/2022 1:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It's theoretically possible for the same dropped filling to leave an impression on more than one coin. The material is usually quite hard. The dropped filling could stick to the die or move around between strikes. That said, I've not yet seen an example of a repetitive dropped filling.
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