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Valued Member
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Edited by Herestohoping 10/23/2022 08:24 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't think it's a proof. The strike is WAY too soft for a proof coin, even an early coin made with nickel. The lack of almost all the vertical ridges on the "III" is the key for me. I suspect the date has been altered.
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Valued Member
 United States
405 Posts |
1877 is made in proof only I thought
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not my field, but that date logo looks funky to me.
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Valued Member
United States
480 Posts |
Looks like a counterfeit. 
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Valued Member
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405 Posts |
I don't think it counterfeit only was asking because I got a really nice offer on it from hvcoins
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Valued Member
United States
480 Posts |
If you compare the style of the 8, you'll see yours is wrong.
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Valued Member
United States
261 Posts |
Here is a real 1877 
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Pillar of the Community
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5661 Posts |
Agree, definitely not genuine.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
The OP coin is clearly a counterfeit. Looks like someone made it to appear as an impaired proof worth $1,000+.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
Agreed, a counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
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just the date itself puts this one in the fake box
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Possibly a collector copy (contemporary counterfeit or relatively so) Date and denticles as noted are a good pickup point
In the 19th c. wealthy collectors (as most were back then) would commission copies of missing coins in their cabinet collections from jewelers and engravers.
Entirely possible this is a cheap modern no-no site fake, too, but it's fun to speculate sometimes!
Not relevant to this particular coin, of course, but there were also restrikes of rare or key dates made from discarded or altered original dies, including some struck at the Philadelphia Mint itself, with varying degrees of provenance; made on commission, as favors, or traded/sold off to collectors in exchange for coins or medals the Mint wanted to add to its own collections. This practice included a few "restrikes" of coins that were never struck in the first place with a certain date.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not sure who the seller is, but sure wouldn't trust a dealer selling. Very clearly off with the incorrect date, weak III, and the missing/weak ribbon on the reverse. Definitely counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looking at the date, big red flag. Looks fake.
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