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2005 D Kansas Quarter Double Buffalo Head

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 Posted 11/05/2022  08:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bill Kerr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Guys unable to find any info on this what looks to be a doubling on the bison head. Do you agree on the doubling?

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 Posted 11/05/2022  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears fairly normal looking to me.
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 Posted 11/05/2022  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, not completely sure on this one. How does it compare in hand with the mint photo?

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 Posted 11/05/2022  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill Kerr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence, I am not trying to be argumentative and I can be wrong, but this is what I would consider normal.
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Hmm.. could be, as Coop says, the doubling is in the center of the coin, So I'm going to see what Coop has to say on this one.
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It is hard to see.
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Yep no prob at all @bill—we are all learning here. I'm not sure on this one—MD vs. a DD.

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High bounce MD?
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I agree, medium/high bounce Machine Doubling. Note the affected area is moved. (A sure sign of Machine Doubling) On a site, that has the DDR's on that design, there are none on that design:
https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/8
Just on the Ocean View examples. TO the design probably won't have a DDR on the reverse. (Sometimes the design that would be affected, can be is there is no design that could be doubled on that area) Or none have been found yet.
But on your coin this is just Machine Doubling.
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Wow, thanks.
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This is a quarter not a nickel. Ocean in view is a nickel. I don't see any difference between the first and second quarter. Maybe the first is a little stronger strike?
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Food for thought. Scroll down a bit to "The Single-Squeeze Hubbing Era" Thanks, Doug.
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I think the peoples around do not understand that the era of double dies is 97% end. From the 2000 the dies was done by CNC procedure so no more Hubbs etc. MD or bounce yes but double dies? almost none. Some times at mint they rework the dies, and then some design deficiencies could happened. It is not the case of this coin.
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Are you saying you agree with Wexer's interview with George Shue, Senior Advisor in Manufacturing at the U.S. Mint? Doubled dies can still exist well past 2000. Unsure how it comes into play, but I thought the Computer Numerical Control machines were in use well before then. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 11/06/2022  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Doug: Before 2000 in fact 1999 was use we can say as no harm to production and test. I agree some could be attribute as Double Die and this is just when they rework the dies. I know the interview, I know others discussions prior of this interview.


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Unsure how it comes into play


In fact the community will go ahead with DD instead redesign doubling or re-design or maybe reworked die error.

I remember I has with the regretted Bert, Ken and Will an discussion about new names attributions, and we find that the community refuse to accept. So let say Double Die.
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