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I need to know if this is a VAM-34 or what kind of VAM it actually is. The tailfeathers look like the ones on the 36&37 in the book but it has doubling in the ODW and E in "In GOD We Trust" like the 34. any information would be greatley appreciated again

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if its a VAM-34 it would be one of the HOT50 and I will b as happy as a june bug but if its just a plain Ol' 36 or 37 I will just mark it like the rest of em I found. I was wondering how common is it for someone to find this many VAM's in one collection with just one of each date/mintmark and only about 40% complete of the date/mint marks of the morgans?
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Originally posted by Bryan1315
I was wondering how common is it for someone to find this many VAM's in one collection with just one of each date/mintmark and only about 40% complete of the date/mint marks of the morgans?



You have to look at VAM's as die states or variations, rather than as errors. Every Morgan is a VAM. The size and complexity of the coin really stretched the limits of minting technology of the day, and combined with some enormous mintage numbers, mistakes and variations are completely understandable. Dies were worked on during the course of their use, sometimes by people who weren't exactly artists.

My point is, no it's not hard to believe that you've found so many identifiable VAM's. There's an enormous body of information available to attribute them, and a VAM number can be assigned to each and every single coin.

Of course, you do seem to be getting more than your share of "cool" ones.

I would call the coin in question a VAM 36. I think what you're seeing as doubling is, in fact, the die chips mentioned in the official description. However, I'm hardly a '78 expert - my specialty is '21's.
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36 was my first guess also because of the tail feathers but a man can always hope for the best. Thank you for the reply on both questions, I just thought it was kind of funny that it seemed almost every coin I looked at had some sort of something different about it. But we can call thisen officially a VAM-36 because that was my first guess also until I saw the "In GOD We Trust" and then thought just maybe if I held my mouth right someone would tell me it was a 34
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I just wanted to say that I think we mis-attributed this coin, I am quite positive it is a VAM-37 instead of a VAM-36. To be fair, it is my fault for the mis-attribution because I didnt show the obverse characteristics. Here they are and as you can see there are "bulges" on the "E" and "P" and the "B" is doubled at right inside and bottom of lower loop as described for the VAM-37, the reverse is the same for the 36 and 37 so it was an easy mistake, I just wanted to let everyone know about this mistake

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Yes all Morgans are VAM's. I had som attributed and some came back like this.

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