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Anyone Know About A 1903 Dbl-Die Rev. Ind. Cent ?

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 Posted 05/24/2006  7:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 3rd-branch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought a 1903 Indian cent for my "Type Collection" and I was going over it before putting it the album. That's when I noticed the double die on the reverse side. The words "ONE CENT" are all double die.
Does anyone have any info on this coin? I'd really like to know before I put it in the album.

I'll post some photos just in case.

Thanks for everyone's time !!

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 Posted 05/25/2006  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cherrypickers guide, atleast the one I have says nothing of this. I do not have SNOW, yet. Anyone reading this who has the SNOW book, is this in there?
To me, it appears like good doubling
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Hi Guy's

What is seen on this coin, IMO is called Longacre doubling,, and is really quite common on the indianhead cents,, and add's no value , By the way I have exactly the same date and same doubling !! although your coin looks to be in better shape than mine .

Rick
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Do you think I should spend the money to have a dealer send it off to be slabbed?
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What kind of grade do you feel it is in?
Unless MS64 or better, I would say no.
Can you post pics of the whole coin, obverse and reverse?
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A friend first suggested it would grade a MS65 easily ...... but when he saw the spot that appears to be the beginning of corrosion, he noticed the "man made scratch". Not sure how much that hurt.
But then he pointed out what he says are two seperate "Die-Cracks" .....
1.) Obverse - runs thru the lower three feathers. Shows clearly in the photo. But does not show in the same exact location on the reverse.
2.) Reverse - runs southeast thru the lower part of the letter "C". It can't be seen in the photo. But can be seen thru a 16x-loop. This is not related to the one on the obverse.

Hope this helps ....
Let me know what you think.

Thank you for helping !!!!
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Opps........

I forgot to load the photos.... Sorry

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 Posted 05/25/2006  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure is a sharp looking coin. Unfortunately I am not far enough along in this series to accurately grade the high-end stuff, so I will leave that to the Indian Experts... there should be a few floating around here somewhere.
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Hi 3rd-branch

conservatively the coin should grade MS-64, the die crack will or should not affect that grade. the coin probly will not grade as a full red due to the spots. but probly RB.

In this grade slabbing is a choice, I know everyone recommends PCGS but unless you are already a member of the Submission club its expensive to get started,, I would recommend anacs , If you want to try for a double die attribution (Im pretty sure it wont attribute ) if my suspicions are correct that it is Longacre doubling on the reverse of the coin.

its a pretty coin !!

Im no fan of TPG'S I like my coins raw !! But I dont oppose the use of them by those who desire to do so .

Rick
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MS64 would be a generous grade for that coin. The reverse is great, but the obverse - the most important side - would get nothing better than a 63 at PCGS.
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Hello 3rd-branch,
There are 25 Snow varieties listed for that year, Rick lists none with a doubled reverse ONE CENT. I too think what you have is Longacre doubling, very common on the series. As for the die crack, I think they add to the value of the coin, I know some collectors in my local clubs myself included, hunt for these die cracked coins.
By your pic, I think it would grade MS-63, a very nice coin you have there.
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 Posted 06/02/2006  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I better take a closer look at my 1903's if two of you have them it must have been pretty common. Thanks for sharing!
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