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 Posted 02/28/2009  10:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does it irritate you (or am I the only one ) when you pay instantly at the end of an ebay auction and the seller does not even acknowledge receipt of the payment or honor your question as to when your Item will ship included in with your payment ?

This irritates me really bad and I sometimes email them and let them know that I expect communication from them.

common courtesy is it on life support on ebay ?

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 Posted 02/28/2009  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. I also sell on ebay where it takes sellers to pay 3-4 days... I am not sure how that would work in the retail non-virtual world.
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 Posted 02/28/2009  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

How hard is it to write a simple email saying "thanks" or will ship your coin on xxxx?

I bought a really nice 1925 Lexington Commemorative Half last Sunday (great deal), paid immediately by PayPal and nothing so far. No coin, no email. And this is a 100% feedback seller.

If the coin comes and I like it I will give positive feedback, but the stars are going to suffer I'm afraid.

Ken
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 Posted 02/28/2009  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of the time it is those that don't sell very much either. It's not like they can use the excuse about thousands of emails to do with. Besides you can automate most of that stuff. Have it already drafted and such.

Yes I agree, very annoying! It makes you appreciate the ones that do bother though.
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 Posted 02/28/2009  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree and that's what the DSR's (detailed seller ratings) are for:

Item as described - I go back and read the description and compare to what I received, and rate accordingly. If the description and pictures are accurate, they get 5 stars. If it's pretty close, but they missed one or two details, then 4 stars and so on.

Communication - I rate them based on whether there is some or none. They get 5 stars if they acknowledge my payment, thank me for the bid and paying, tell me when the item is shipping and how it's shipping, and provide a tracking number if applicable. If they leave one or two items off the list, then they get 3 or 4 stars depending on what they left off (personally I think providing a tracking number is a huge thing, and a simple thanks is as well). If no communication, they get 1 star.

Shipping time - when I sell on ebay, I ship 90% of my stuff next business day, and the rest within 2 business days. I dont expect sellers to do the same, but I think 3-4 business days is more than enough time unless they communicate to me as to why it might take longer. As long as they keep me in the loop, I will be more lenient.

Shipping and handling charges - I compare what I was charged to what the label says and rate accordingly. Ideally, I think a seller should not profit on shipping at all, but I dont expect them to lose money either. As a seller that is showing a net loss myself on shipping, I am surprised that more buyers arent using common sense when doing this rating (mine is 4.8 on this, the rest are 4.9). It's not me charging $15.45 to ship a football helmet to Washington, it's the post office and people need to recognize the difference....I am charging what the post office charges, and because of Paypal fees, I actually lose a little here.
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 Posted 02/28/2009  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
99.9% positive feedback seller, 4.9 ratings, generous enough to answer my 5th email after 7 days. Said that he "forgot what I won". So hard to check? Next email after 12 more days saying he "thought this transaction was over". Items received after 29 days.
No info on when or how the items were shipped. Description: "Item location: Florida, United States", the package I received was sent from China.

I hate that place - and will never buy coins there.
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02/28/2009 12:32 pm
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i rate very realistically on the star system. Read the description for each star. If it is only average then its 3 stars. It is the only way the best will start to shine.

With shipping if they charge up to a dollar over the top then that's ok. I know they can get the materials for half of that and so a bit extra for paypal fees is fine. More than that and the stars go down.

And I don't need sellers telling me I have to add extra to shipping to cover listing fees, paypal fees, babysitting fees, hairdressing fees and so on. This should be included in what you got for the coin, not in the shipping cost.

If you are selling your coins too cheaply then sell them for more. Don't claw it back on the shipping or the star rating goes down.

There were a few threads and a lot of heartache before ebay took away seller feedback fromsellers bemoaning the fact and saying they would suffer from lunatic buyers.

At the time I said, provided you are a good seller this will benefit you, because the bad ones will start to get the ratings they deserve and buyers will be able to tell who is actually good and who is blackmailing buyers for good feedback with the threat of retaliatory feedback.

The proof is in the pudding, you only have to check out our own forum mom & dad's rating to see they haven't suffered under the new system. Because they obviously know how to treat their customers.
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 Posted 02/28/2009  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...the seller does not even acknowledge receipt of the payment or honor your question as to when your Item will ship included in with your payment ?
To their credit, a few I've bought from ebay acknowledge payment and some have even provided tracking numbers.

Others I regard as rather lazy in their communication/shipping methods--even self-described "professional numismatists". In one case, I bought a rather expensive large cent ($550), where I contacted this guy beforehand to ship the coin in a padded/insured envelope--I even paid him extra $ to cover this. Guess what--the coin arrives in a standard envelope between two thin layers of cardboard. When I called the seller on this, he defended this as "the way he does business", or more accurately--the way he loses business.

So I think a lot of people got it into their heads that they ultimately define the buyer's needs--and no one will convince them otherwise. They set the bar far too low on CS, and ebay actually enables lazy business practices by assuring their feedback system and paypal somehow produce customer satisfaction. Why talk to your customers or run satisfaction surveys when you have "feedback"?

A few strive above the standard set by ebay, but I suspect the rest settle for ebay's umbrella because they're either lazy or have something to gain. Bad business practices are passed from the corporate level to the individual--IMO.

Ok, that was a bit of a rant.
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