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Thoughts On Ptolemy III Zeus Eagle Coin - Tourist Copy?

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 Posted 11/20/2022  11:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dar76124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thoughts on this, 40mm, 57g

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It looks legit to me but I'm no expert. These large bronzes were struck in Alexandria, I have one 40mm 64 grams with two eagles. You could search online sites like acsearch to see if you can find a match or reference books if you have any.
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Here is the best site for this coin type. http://ptolemybronze.com/
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Can we have some good shots of the edges? Particularly 5:00 in the obverse pic. Also, 3:00 reverse - appears to possibly be some filing there, but I am not certain.
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5:00 Obverse


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3:00 Reverse


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That edge worries me. I think this piece was cast.
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Well, I believe Ptolemaic bronzes do often have residual seams resulting from the flan casting process. I don't think seams are necessarily a cause for alarm with these issues. But the evidence of filing might be more of a concern.maybe. This is a tough one.
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I'm on the fence, not sure now. With online databases one can search to try and find die matches but it takes time, the ANS, British Museum, other museums, Svoronos, SNG Cop., completed coins auctions, etc.

A few years back I sent a Colossae, Phrygia coin to David Sear I was wondering about. He authenticated it for me. It came from a Kunker auction. I sent a pic of it to the RPC online project. It's posted there but with a question mark as to it being genuine since it's the only example variation of the obverse die. Experts can sometimes disagree or be uncertain. RPC did not examine the coin in hand.
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Ptolemaic bronzes do often have residual seams resulting from the flan casting


Ok good to learn that Bob. Thx!
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