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1840-O No Drapery Liberty Seated Quarter For Grading

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Wow, nice coin!
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Terrific! Way to go!
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i guess the discoloration on the fields could be from handling. I still think saw a tad of circulation. an MS coin, never circulated, is not going to naturally lose its luster like that. the only other thing I can think of is how it was stored affected the surfaces. if the coin was obv facing up the luster on the reverse would be more prominent which is what we see here but I'm wondering if it was lightly cleaned or dipped at some point and then re-toned. another reason to back that up is the dark toning on the reverse. it reminds me of tarnishing not toning. toning just doesn't go straight to black and there are no signs of any other color and could be a residual of whatever was used on it. the fields remind me more of an XF coin rather than an MS coin. dont get me wrong, this is a nice coin I'm just trying to figure out where the luster went and how that tarnish got there.
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The mark on the reverse shield is a die clash
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Here is the trueview.


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grade makes sense. I still think the coins surfaces were altered by the way it was stored and just to satisfy my curiosity what is the black tarnish like stain on the reverse and what caused it.
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Well, lots of the quarters unearthed from the New Orleans Hoard also have darker surfaces with subdued luster. As for the reverse, it just looks like toning to me and not staining, and caused by wherever it sat beforehand.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-qua...bnail-071515

From the HA link, Q. David Bowers describes the typical piece from the New Orleans treasure: "Survivors from this hoard can be identified by having a somewhat matte-like surface, usually with some traces of gray or black in areas."
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I was going to say AU58.

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Your coin looks so much nicer than the purported "Gem 65" in the heritage sale you linked. Seems hard to believe that that coin is 65 and yours is just 62.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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the typical piece from the New Orleans treasure: "Survivors from this hoard can be identified by having a somewhat matte-like surface, usually with some traces of gray or black in areas."


that makes sense
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