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This Looks Like A Broken Ladder If The 0 Counts.

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The 0 counts. Did you have a question about condition or value?
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Finding a Broken Ladder is the equivalent of finishing 9th out of 10 teams and getting a participation trophy.
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A "broken ladder" label is just someone's attempt to get more value out of a common note.
If my math is correct there is 3,628,800 possible combinations in an 8-digit number using 0 through 9.
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The frequency of no pair, all different is only 1/55 (1.81%). Relatively, that's pretty frequent. If we restrict that further to say the eight digits MUST be only 0-7, then of the 45 ways to choose 8 digits different digits out of 10 possible, only one is valid. So the frequency of 0-7 broken ladder is 1/(55*45) or 1/2480 or .04%. That's more frequent than a radar (1/10,000) or 6ok (1/4409) so quasi-cool I guess mathematically but not quite. And subjectively one has to decide if the eye appeal of both the number composition and the order is on par with a radar or repeater or six of a kind, which it probably isn't IMO.
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The "0" counts, but the order is not appealing to me IMHO. Good luck!
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The condition is a spender but I will keep to teach others.
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The condition is a spender but I will keep to teach others.

After reading this, I'm curious what the lesson will be.
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15624307 has 8 unique digits. In 1.8% of 8-digit numbers, there are 8 unique digits so close to 2% of notes could have that type of finding so while they are indeed cool to find and may sell to some very casual collectors, they arent really considered hard to find or valuable and serious collectors arent interested. This is actually 'scrambled ladder' not 'broken ladder' although some mistakenly confuse the two, and unlike the other types of ladders mentioned below really should not have any added value. Yes some very casual collectors on places such as ebay may buy them either because they think something is interesting for a personal collection, or more likely just being led to believe wrongly they hold similar value to the other types of ladders by sellers saying 'rare' or other terms. To serious collectors and dealers they are worth face value.

Compare that in 0.000003% of 8-digit numbers, there are forward runs of 8 or longer (a true ladder like 01234567 and these are rare and valuable and appeal to serious collectors. https://www.coolserialnumbers.com/H...lNumbers.pdf

Some additional info below on ladders.

Ladder - In a ladder serial number, every digit is one number higher (or lower) than the previous digit. Really the only true ladder is a serial number than contains a letter then 12345678 followed by another letter. The true ladder in its purest form is only printed once for every 96 million notes in a standard print run. True ladders are rare and command a premium.

There are also many other examples of ladders. Some people would consider A00012345A to be a ladder. Others might call D00034567A a ladder which have duplicate numbers.The next closest thing to a true ladder in terms of value is the true reverse, backwards, or step down ladder. It looks like A87654321A in its best form. Reverse ladders are fun, but they are always less desirable than up ladders.

A cheap form of a ladder comes in the "broken" ladder. It reads something like A01200304A. Some people like these, but they are really just more affordable versions of what people really want. Some do collect them and may sell on places like ebay to those casual collectors for small premium. Some scam artists have recently tried to push the "scrambled ladder." The scrambled ladder consists of 8 unique numbers, like A92378514A.but have no added value normally to true collectors and dealers.
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