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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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I am curious to see what you all think.... Edited to add: besides grade differences .  Edited by GERMANICVS
12/17/2022 07:40 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Right one appears to have die scratches in the k4-k7 area.
I call them die "scratches" because that appear to be too regular to be die cracks.
Both appear to be "Reverse of 1797".
Letter size on the right one appears smaller.
(How did I do?)
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Obviously the die cracks near the fraction. Also, the bottom "1" appears taller with a flatter top on the right. And several of the berries have longer stems on the right coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
756 Posts |
left is 1800 S-205 and right is 1800 S-206.
i misattributed the 205 in your grading thread. 1800s are hard. my noyes book doesn't mention the die cracks on 205. thats where I got tripped up. I saw the crack between C and A and thought I had it figured out. I made a note in my book to help me with that in the future.
i had to pop this one into a photo program and overlay them to be sure. the spot that convinced me is the outer berry to the right of T in cenT. on the S-206 (coin on the right) there is a small horizontal tool line or die chip extending out of the berry at 3:00.
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Pillar of the Community
 Germany
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Thank you for your comments.
Zurie came close with this:
[quote]...And several of the berries have longer stems on the right coin./quote]
The difference between these two reverses is mostly about the berries.
I summarize them here.
Reverse U (used in S-206) compared to Reverse T (used in S-205):
1) ME and F are normal, not irregularly shaped or recut
2) the berry below C(E) has a heavy stem slanting down to the right
3) the stem of the berry above O(N) aims at the space between F A. On reverse T, this stem aims between AM.
4) outer berry below R has a small spine.
I fully agree with Carrs comments that 1800's and (for me) also 1798's) are difficult to attribute. Differences between dies can be quite subtle and small, as is the case here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's wild how similar they are! I had them as the same die when comparing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would add that the berries below M and below the E and D in UNITED all have longer stems on the S-206. Agree it's pretty subtle!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't like the line from the right foot of A2 America, to the 2nd 0 in the denominator
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't like the line from the right foot of A2 America, to the 2nd 0 in the denominator those are die cracks. the coin left the mint with those line there. they are diagnostic to the variety. |
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United States
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From the photos, it looks like there are differences in the right stem end. Left coin:  Right coin:  |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Quote:
From the photos, it looks like there are differences in the right stem end.
Thank you for pointing that out.  I had not noticed it. |
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