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1971 D Kennedy Half Dollar Missing Stars

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 Posted 12/18/2022  04:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add elliottite to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everybody, got this 1971 denver minted half dollar and seems some of the detail in a lot of the devices is very much not there. Bottom halve of the date along with the ST in TRUST and the Y in LIBERTY are not there. It seems to me to be a worn out die, maybe. Also wondering if that is a small Cud on the reverse in the last photo? Would love to hear some feedback on this coin. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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 Posted 12/18/2022  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like the result of a combo of grease in the die and wear on the die
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 Posted 12/18/2022  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@elliottite.... The last photo appears to be a rim Cud.
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 Posted 12/18/2022  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight? Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 12/18/2022  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the die was very old, a small Cud on the rim by the U and the stars in the same area look 'smeared' towards the rim. Also noted is a Grease Filled Die..
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 Posted 12/18/2022  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That sure looks like a rim Cud. I don't see it listed here.
http://cuds-on-coins.com/kennedy-ha...964-present/
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 Posted 12/18/2022  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pre retired Die (re-polish many times.) and some Grese involve combinate with a light strike.
Small nice Cud.
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 Posted 12/18/2022  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What s the first clue for a Grease Fill die issue?
Wider Devices
Answer hidden between these two lines. High light that area to see the answer.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elliottite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone....I haven't been able to find a match for that Cud. I wouldn't think it would be worthy of grading. Not sure where I should go from here with it. Any suggestions would be great.
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Weight - 11.340 grams
Tolerance - 0.454 grams
Edge thickness - 2.15 mm

Check Cuds on Cuds. http://cuds-on-coins.com/kennedy-ha...964-present/
I think the current images exhibit a bit of weakness all around suggesting possibly under weight. Rim Cud is plausible if it exceeds above thickness. Don't see one listed, but might qualify as Cross reference number: none. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elliottite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the weight for ya....and a better shot showing Cud location

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 Posted 12/23/2022  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elliottite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i also found this on it...

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 Posted 12/24/2022  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 11.25 gr show me add to my previous response to this post that we have here a very little difference in the thickness of the planchet, which explain the light strike.
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The 11.25 gr show me add to my previous response to this post that we have here a very little difference in the thickness of the planchet, which explain the light strike.

silviosi, Thank you. I get it. I don't know the minting process well and have just started doing this. But now I get that reason for a light strike. Thin planchet. the dies would not be able to press into the metal as far because the planchet is thinner.
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