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New Member
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There are a number of posts on the web (including in this forum) that wooden coin boxes are not generally safe for coin storage because of wood degassing. Yet, major suppliers like Lighthouse, SAFE, Guardhouse all sell such boxes. (I am not sure if I can include direct links here). Unaware of this issue, I have bought a nice little one with removable trays, but after reading those posts I kind of started to worry. My coins are mostly silver world coins in capsules. So should I ditch the wooden box and buy something else, say an aluminum box? Or I am overreacting? I do have intercept strips, if I use those, would they neutralize wood degassing?
Thanks.
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 to the Community! Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.  I have a Lighthouse box for my graded Ikes. I bought it nearly six years ago and have noticed no ill effects. I believe at least one other member has this same box. Many members have shown their cabinets, trays, and other wood base products. Hopefully they can comment on their successes or failures.
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Wooden boxes used to be THE normal for collectors. Called a "coin cabinet". Whether hung on the wall or was a box sitting on living room buffet.
The wooden boxes tend to tone the coins because of the glue, liner material, sap, or finish that was applied to the wood.
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Whether coin cabinets damaged coins or not depended on what the wood, and the lining, were made from. "old fashioned" materials tended to be safer. Mahogany is considered "the best wood" for housing antiquities like coins, because it has no harmful outgassing products, but mahogany is getting harder to obtain (and therefore more expensive) because, well, we keep overharvesting the stuff because we like using the wood for lots of other things besides coin cabinets, and the trees grow slowly. Some other hardwoods are probably good enough substitutes, but oak should be avoided due to the high tannin content; softwoods like pine might be cheap but they're the worst for coins, due to the outgassing of sulfur compounds from the resin. General rule: if the wood has a strong smell, it's not going to be good for coins.
For linings, traditional velvet (made from silk) was mostly harmless; the pseudo-velvet made from plastic microfibres commonly used these days is less stable, especially when coloured with acidic dyes.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
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Thanks for all your kind replies, even though, admittedly they didn't bring me any closer to deciding what to do with my little wooden box. I have only about 40 coins in this box (mostly capsuled). If I am allowed to mention it here, it is called "elegance" form SAFE collecting supplies. I would really appreciate if anyone would comment on whether the Intercept strips (+ some silica gel desiccants) are strong enough to neutralize the ill effects of the wood.
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Quote: I would really appreciate if anyone would comment on whether the Intercept strips (+ some silica gel desiccants) are strong enough to neutralize the ill effects of the wood. Desiccants stop atmospheric moisture, and intercept strips stop sulfur compounds. They will certainly help, though they aren't magic - they need regular replacing/recharging to keep working. They would make your coin box "safer", but I'd be reluctant to call it "safe". But if the coins in the box are already also in air-resistant capsules, this will go a long way to adding sufficient protection. I looked up your box at their store; I have to say, the "weasel words" in the sales spiel worry me. The boxes are described as being made of "solid wood" and having a "cherry wood grain finish". Cherry wood is another good, low-emission wood type for coin cabinets, but it doesn't actually say "made of cherry wood". "Solid wood" is as legally meaningless as "solid gold" - yes, it's solid, as opposed to liquid or gas, but it doesn't tell you which wood its actually made from - but rather, it says it has a cherry wood "finish", which probably just means it's been painted/varnished to look like cherry wood. Outgassing from paint, varnish or other coatings on the wood is just as potentially problematic as outgassing from raw wood.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Quote: "Solid wood" is as legally meaningless as "solid gold" I believe they are using the term to indicate it is not laminated particle board or some other processed wood product. Bargain wood cabinets are made of particle board covered with a wood grain laminate to simulate real wood; however, I agree this product is likely a cheaper "solid" wood that is covered with cherry laminate or some other simulated finish. Probably best to avoid it altogether.
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New Member
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Thanks, Sap, these are exactly the things I was worried about. The box has some "new furniture smell" to it very close up, so in the long run it may do some damage.
I guess this may explain why they call such boxes "display" or "presentation" boxes or cases rather than storage ones. They might be ok for short periods of time but probably not for long term storage.
Maybe one more thing to clear up before I get rid of the box. If I use it regularly (open/close/handle coins), say weekly if not daily, will that be enough to prevent damage from offgassing (coins are capsuled)?
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