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Looks like a conservation project a la Carr... look fwd to seeing what it looks like after your conservation efforts.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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its S-248 which is a bit scarcer as a variety. R-4. maybe a 2x premium for that. i think you'll find a bunch of pits under that green stuff. it looks like its already started to eat the metal. I try not to buy that problem. its a really hard and brittle thing that is difficult to remove and is imbedded into the coin. here is a 1794 that got posted recently where someone has already removed that kind of stuff (i think). you can see a similar green spot to left of the date on this coin. http://goccf.com/t/437228 |
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Thanks for the attribution Carrs coins! Yes I think there is some pitting for sure under the green spots. Verdicare will remove the green and halt the process. What happened on reverse is a question I would like to know the answer to.
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I'm not expecting much, but good luck!
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happy to help. this variety has a couple neat pickups. its the "mumps" obverse because liberty has a bulge under her jaw like someone with mumps. the fraction bar on the back is double punched. you should be able to see a ghost image of a second fraction bar above and slightly right of the normal fraction bar. it eventually gets a big crack across the top of america. i didnt pay too much attention to that bit on the back with my first go round. that thing is interesting. I wonder if its a strike through. I dont see and evidence of a bulge from damage on the opposite side. there are only ~20 copies of that variety that grade better than fine. my collection copy is pretty similar to yours in terms of detail. it cost $36 about 25 years ago. here is my coin:   |
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I like the color and surfaces better on your coin. The coin I just bought has more detail remaining but also the surfaces issue. So if you paid 36 for this coin many years ago what would you value it at today?
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12/29/2022 1:30 pm
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i would probably price it around 100 retail maybe 50 wholesale or something in that range. I wouldnt expect it to sell very fast at that price though. R-4 varieties are pretty soft right now. they were red hot in the 90s after the noyes book was released but before ebay made everything more accessible. looking on ebay I see one priced a 195 and another at 375. I dont like either of those coins any better than the one I have. they both have more detail but they both have a lot of minor problems. the 375 dollar coin has a similar flaw to yours. the mint state example - Robinson S. Brown coin - also has a similar flaw. that makes me think it was an issue with the blank cutting machine. |
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Thanks for that info. The coins listed in there didn't all have the greatest surfaces either. I am ok with $30
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i dont like the surfaces on them either. as a general rule you want to look for smooth surfaces with tan to milk chocolate color on that series. there are a lot of ugly coins out there. the top 5-10% in any grade is really where you want to be at. the extra cost tends to be well spent when it comes time to sell.
i think you did fine on the price. you really cant get draped busts for much less than that without buying a truly upsetting looking coin.
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Over my years at this forum and over my collecting career I don't think I've met anyone who was able to squeeze more value by picking up nice, overlooked large cents than our jerryc39. Most are much nicer than the coin in this thread. I'm sure that he's not the only one who does what he does, but he also generously shares what he does with the readers of this forum [sort of like what you do also CC]. This is probably one of the highlights of coming on here. Thanks to both of you for sharing what you do.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/29/2022 2:58 pm
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That was the nicest thing to say numismatic student! I am truly touched. Thank you for your kind words!
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obverse looks G4 reverse VG. i'll give it G details (corroded)
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Looks G-6 details, environmental damage.
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