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1837 Capped Bust 50c You Vs PCGS

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What do you think this graded? I don't own it, just came across it browsing.


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 Posted 01/02/2023  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63? Some great die breaks on this!
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AU58 or MS62 probably an old cleaning may be acceptable
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 Posted 01/02/2023  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty much agree, might go to MS-63.
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Very difficult to see and determine the amount of tiny hairlines and nicks under the patina, from these otherwise good pictures.
There may be a lot (I doubt it), there may be very few.
Therefore, expect a range of grade opinions MS-61 to 65.
Potentially, that would make for a huge difference in value.

some obvious die cracks on both obv and rev.

This coin presents a strong case for in hand examination before committing to buy. If you have set your heart on it, you necessarily have to trust the grade as stated on the slab.

Remember, the TPG opinion is just that, and it is still caveat emptor.
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 Posted 01/03/2023  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know enough about these...but I've never seen one with no reverse denticals in this condition...?
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 Posted 01/03/2023  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks Unc. 62 or 63. Can't get a good feel for this one.
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Very nice MS coin. At least a 63, and I expect it to be a little higher than that. These photos do not give me confidence to grade it properly.
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Nice looking MS-63.
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MS66, I didn't think it looked that high. Sold in 2010 for $27600. NGC price guide has it now at $30,000, although looking at last sold there's a 14k, 15k and 16k so that was a pricey buy!


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well shut my mouth
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At this grade level, it would have looked much nicer in blast white, but
at the age that it is, perhaps that is asking too much.
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TobyJ: An outstanding coin for sure. The price comparisons you are using are actually a misnomer. You are using NGC sales to compare to a PCGS CAC graded coin. There are only three CAC graded 1837 MS 66 CAC 50c. All are in PCGS holders. The one you posted sold for $27,600 in 2010, another sold for $38,187 in 2015, and one sold for $32,900 in 2016 (sold again in 2017 for $30,500) . These sales represent the three known 1837 PCGS MS 66 CAC coins. The current PCGS price guide is $40,000.
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Wowie !! Thx very much.
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