2017 P Lincoln Shield Cent Pre Cud Die Crack? - Page 2

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gorham_collector Valued Member United States 426 Posts	Posted 02/02/2023 10:45 pm Here are my images of the coin as well. (Idky the images when clicked on become so big, first time that's happened when reducing an image to the correct upload format) Edited by gorham_collector 02/02/2023 11:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 02:51 am Now I see and I can say it is a struck crack. the signs are there. I will agree also a old Die but do not change nothing. For new coins technology I simply not see a coin been struck as is. North week strike on both side. I do not catch why the press do not stop after first unbalanced strike? This coin is more then the crack or what you can say, it is an production clear default.. I know many will look at the grease strike? . Sorry no more grease, It is liquid as the water. This it is unbalance Hammer. Unknow for me how could happened, because a press is suppose to stop if it is more then 1 Deg un-balanced forces?. IMOH it is an Mint forced error. To be followed. Edited by silviosi 02/03/2023 03:27 am Report this Post to the Staff
gorham_collector Valued Member United States 426 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 08:54 am Yea I'd agree I don't think it could be a bi facial grease strike as the obverse where the die break occurs on the reverse the weakness occurs in that exact same spot lines up with the crack. And the weakness keeps going till the coin is flush and struck. And that also matches up on the reverse as well. To perfect Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 08:59 am I still think there was horizontal movement of the obverse die where the crack came out of the die. Technically, it's not a sunken die issue, but movement of the obverse die face, which caused the weak strike of the opposing area on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
gorham_collector Valued Member United States 426 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 12:31 pm Quote: . I still think there was horizontal movement of the obverse die where the crack came out of the die. Technically, it's not a sunken die issue, but movement of the obverse die face, which caused the weak strike of the opposing area on the reverse. I emailed images off to JC Stevens and he said it was later stage of the die chip listing. And that he'd list it as a RIDB Retained Interior Die Break. He stated he also seen horizontal movement as well on the obverse. Edited by gorham_collector 02/03/2023 12:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8775 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 4:59 pm Nice pics, Gorham! -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
gorham_collector Valued Member United States 426 Posts	Posted 02/03/2023 9:01 pm Quote: . Bifacial, unipolar design weakness can have a number of causes Can a retained interior die break also cause the weakness mike? As there is some horizontal movement in the die break here it is slight. Also the coin does rock slightly obverse facing down. Curious of your thoughts I've been trying to research and look at RIDB to see if it can cause weakness on a coin on the same area obverse and reverse.. Report this Post to the Staff
gorham_collector Valued Member United States 426 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 2:19 pm Update it has been listed on cudoncoins as RIDB Report this Post to the Staff
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