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China Meng Chiang 5 Jiao But A Scarcer Version

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 Posted 01/06/2023  11:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Meng Chiang / Mengjiang was a Japanese puppet state in China. My understanding of Chinese geography is not the best but the current location is around Inner Mongolia.

While there are plenty of banknotes issued, there is only one common issued coin, which is the 5 jiao stuck in copper nickel.

China-Meng-Chiang-5-Jiao-But-A-Scarcer-Version

There are other aluminum issues (1 fen, 5 fen and 1 jiao) which are supposed to be common issues however for unknown reasons are extremely rare. The current theory is that majority of the coins were sunk from an allied submarine torpedo.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/me...hiang-1.html

That said, there is supposedly a pattern version of the 5 jiao. Some catalog call this white metal but I believe this is struck in zinc. Mine has a light die rotation error.

China-Meng-Chiang-5-Jiao-But-A-Scarcer-Version

As you can tell, this is a lot brighter white and looks like zinc oxidization. I wouldn't say it's rare but they do not appear in the market often.

Maybe you have the rarer version?
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 Posted 01/06/2023  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was struck in zinc, and with the same dimensional specifications,
it should weigh a bit less than 5.5 grams, at around 4.4 grams.

I also understand that you also have an an example of a Chinese coin struck in antimony (Sb). Love to see a pic of that !
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 Posted 01/06/2023  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should be no trouble to see if SG is 7.13
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I'm pretty certain it's genuine. It weights at 4.77g

I've come across copper Hua Hsing 1 fen which is also quite uncommon

China-Meng-Chiang-5-Jiao-But-A-Scarcer-Version

And lastly the antimony coin

China-Meng-Chiang-5-Jiao-But-A-Scarcer-Version
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At 4.77 grams for what maybe is a pattern in zinc, is believable.
Being a pattern it would be quite rare.

Thx for the pic of the Stibnium !
By way of confirmation, I found your particular coin on Google images.
The stibnium is quite rare as well, - Stephen Album confirms with his sold price.
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01/07/2023 09:23 am
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Thanks sel_69l. Researching these coins can be difficult as I have to go through texts in Chinese, Korean and Japanese! Google translate has been great help.
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