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1598 Thaler Brunswick Wolfenbuttel

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 Posted 01/14/2023  5:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One more coin from the collection I'm considering buying. I didn't weigh it because I didn't have a coin flip with me to put it in afterwards. Measures about 39-40 mm. Looking for grade opinions & any idea about value.
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 Posted 01/14/2023  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@trd, I can't speak to whether it is real, but these 16th century Thalers are gorgeous. So much surface area for the engravers to work! Here is the numista link by the way:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces158168.html
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 Posted 01/14/2023  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samoth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The attribution is Davenport 9091 (Dav-9091).

I'd grade it aVF, but I'm not familiar with the specific type. It'd probably grade VF in a US slab. It has nice color & smooth surfaces, but there's a dark spot at K-12 on the reverse edge near the rim I'd want to see closer to make sure it's not ex-mount.

I don't know about valuation, but you can use the attribution to run comps from recent auction PRs. I see nice, mid-grade, problem-free talers around this age start around $400 for common issues and increase with rarity.
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Super coin.
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I did some web research before I posted. I was able to find a few graded examples to compare with. This is definitely outside my wheelhouse but my impression was that the reverse didn't have enough detail for VF. I believe the dark spot at K12 is a shadow from the 2x2.
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A couple currently for sale on MA-shops that might bracket yours on condition (and confirming @samoth's price estimate):
https://www.ma-shops.com/raffler/item.php?id=45887
https://www.ma-shops.com/loebbers/i...id=221219006

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