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There's a back-story to this coin. It was found around the late 1950's by my Brother as he was digging around in a Park. The Park was the location of "Camp Chase" during the US Civil War. It was a Confederate Camp ordered by the Union. It's been in our family since it was found. Because of it's location, I tend to think it's real. However, fakes were made back then also. I'll try the Vinegar trick to see if the date shows up. I also have a Photographic capable Microscope for coins ready to order. Please help if you can. I can try to get better photos but, I've never been great at good pics of coins. What ya'll think?  Edited by dsking
01/22/2023 1:35 pm
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Edited by John1
01/22/2023 2:38 pm
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Additionally, the 46 acres remained with small cabins until 1925 when the area was designated as "Westgate Park". Homes were soon built after 1925 to the North. There is a large Confederate Cemetery within Westgate Park as well. We lived just to the North and played in the park (a lot) as children. I knew you would ask about weight as size John1. The staples tips are bent down into the cardboard but, I will flatten them - yes, Sir!  Measurements, weight, etc. are forthcoming! |
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Reeded edge, 26.5 grams, 38.7 MM and roughly 2.6 MM thick around the edge of the rim. It "clinks" like silver. The coin is worn to pretty much smooth with slight definition in places. There is also a small chop mark on the edge and rim that appears to be an old "chop", perhaps to test to see if it was silver. Kind of like the old days when folks would bite a coin to see if it was real.
FYI: We have a genuine coin scale and Pittsburgh Calipers.
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01/22/2023 4:41 pm
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Zs (Zacatecas) mint, 1829-1833 or so by style... and indeed it is a Contemporary Counterfeit (meaning of the period). Appears to be a lower fineness silver alloy from its look.
Interesting find. Am I seeing correctly that this Camp Chase was(is) Columbus, OH?
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Realeswatcher: I'm betting on an early Counterfeit due to the location it was found and not on top of the soil. Yes, Camp Chase in Columbus, Ohio on the West Side. It's part of the Westgate and Hilltop areas. Are you familiar with the area?
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01/28/2023 2:14 pm
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I'm only familiar with fiddle tune Camp Chase. It is connected to the prison camp but was written down many years later in West Virginia. https://elkinsdepot.com/blog/camp-c...war-history/The coin itself looks like it was plated, with the plating wearing off. It looks like lead underneath. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/29/2023 1:33 pm
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Hello to all of you! My opinion is that the provided photos show clearly(at least,for me!) that the coin is a counterfeit (contemporary or close to, most likely)! Made of copper and then silver plated. Billon(low silver alloy) was much seldom used in old times fakes... END OF STORY,for me!  Friendly yours,Andi  |
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That's ever so possible Andi10. considering the location that it was found was a former Confederate Prison. It was found in the 1950's there.
Those were rough times and I certainly can see why our foreign made money would be counterfeited.
I'll still keep it for it's history.
Thanks!
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02/06/2023 7:29 pm
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Its a contemporary circulating counterfeit probably during this period a Silver Sheffield type plate over a copper core and Pb added probably to bring it to 26.5 grams. JPL
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02/06/2023 8:26 pm
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Thank you Colonialjohn for your comments. I think that whoever "made" this coin sure got their worth out of it. It sat in that park for decades and I still love it. Thanks again!
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