Ugliest 1935 $1 Silver Certificate Error Separated 2 Halves

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mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1721 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 09:13 am This 1935 silver certificate note was found in a small collection with a 35 dollar price tag. Aside from being the ugliest note I have ever seen, it has separated into two halves. What would have caused this to separate? Defective paper? Someone with an incredibly sharp fillet knife(sarcasm)? If you have an uglier banknote, I'd like to see it. Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff

SteveInTampa Pillar of the Community United States 4637 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 09:38 am It's torn where most notes with a heavy center fold tear, in the center. Edited by SteveInTampa 02/09/2023 09:38 am Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 09:50 am Steve - I think he's showing a note that has been sliced like a hamburger bun. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 10:30 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188770 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 10:58 am Yikes! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1721 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 11:05 am Quote: I think he's showing a note that has been sliced like a hamburger bun. Bingo Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15453 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 11:14 am That is indeed a worn out note! No clue how it became separated like that. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7621 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 11:16 am The old notes were printed on wet paper and they had a tendency to delaminate over time. Wear and tear has a way with paper. When we were kids we would try using a pocket knife to split notes into two halves. Nothing nefarious going on just trying to pass time and see if we could do it. The old paper was quirky. Report this Post to the Staff
SteveInTampa Pillar of the Community United States 4637 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 2:06 pm I see it now. I've seen it before on older notes but I've never really had any interest in this sort of stuff. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96580 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 3:18 pm Quote: No clue how it became separated like that. I didn't even think it was possible to split a note like that. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
datadragon Pillar of the Community United States 1648 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 9:15 pm Interesting. Some info from PMG: Splits are created over time by repeated folding along the same line. Splits gradually move along the fold, separating the paper as it weakens. Each edge of the split usually has the same amount of wear due to this gradual effect. Splits are most commonly seen in the margins or body of notes grading VF and below. However, it is not uncommon for a note of a higher grade to have splits if heavy folds are present. On notes grading higher than VF, graders believe that a comment may be necessary, depending on the severity of the split. Splits and tears are most commonly seen on early Legal Tender Notes, Treasury Notes, Interest Bearing Notes, Obsoletes and Confederate Issues due to the paper used for those types. The article goes further to discuss differences in splits vs tears. https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/artic...ts-vs-Tears/ Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 9:18 pm Thanks for that. Report this Post to the Staff
NumismaticsFTW Pillar of the Community United States 2281 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 9:26 pm Learn something new every day! You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96580 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 9:35 pm thanks Data Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1721 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 10:18 pm Thanks datadragon. That was from an article on the difference between a tear and a split. I guess I should have posted that but you got it covered. The question now, is there a market for this pair? I didn't see any examples that have sold. Report this Post to the Staff
datadragon Pillar of the Community United States 1648 Posts	Posted 02/09/2023 11:04 pm A good question. Below is another example found on ebay for sale at $99.95 currently unsold from the same 1935a series so it may be more common to have splitting in that era and perhaps helped along to fully split from there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255964652078 in this case it appears we are dealing with natural wear at least. In short, A split is an opening that can form along a fold of a bank note. Splits are sometimes seen on notes grading Fine and below due to heavy circulation and reduce the value of the note accordingly based on its condition it will be graded (or sold as). Maybe as a novelty? some casual collector would want it since its unusual to see a bill split in half that way. I wonder if there are any lowball currency collectors as its popular among coins, and certainly there are error or unusual currency collectors out there. Also in general, apparently Collectors should be aware that counterfeiters will go to great lengths, even splitting coins or banknotes, in order to give the illusion that their work is actually a valuable collectible. The technology to accomplish this also does exist and is used by archival institutions to preserve very old paper documents that have printing on both sides. The split here into two uniface pieces was done right down the razor-thin edge of the note, possibly a chemical was used to help split them. So in those cases it should be graded to verify its a true error like those one sided notes (uniface). https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/artic...-5-piastres/ Edited by datadragon 02/09/2023 11:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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