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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by burfle23
02/09/2023 4:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Slabs look fake, invalid cert number
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3468 Posts |
Same serial #, 0 feedback account created today.
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Valued Member
United States
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I'll weigh in. First, accidentally creating two listings is something a brand new seller might do. And a brand new seller would have 0 feedback. So on its face, I won't assume ill intent.
Now, having said that: if I'm brand new, I'll probably start with a $29 coin, not a $900 coin. And for heaven's sake, have a return policy other than "I won't accept them."
The printed card in the slab does appear fake, and I don't like the font. The cert # definitely isn't on PCGS' website. That is, on rare occasions, PCGS' fault.
The coin itself is sketchy; I don't like Liberty's nose (unless she was a boxer?) The rim line at k12 and at k5 and k8 looks off, and the details are mushy. I'd expect to detect some luster, even if just in the protected areas, in a PCGS 50 coin.
My verdict: I'm not gonna buy this coin for LOADS of reasons. But I don't have enough information to call Mr. Grumpycoins a rascal - he may just be a patsy and a n00b. Bless his heart. (That's a call-out to his location... that southern thing...)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ha! Yup, two different coins sharing the same cert # . You'd think the seller would at least try a little  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Interested I'm learning how this ends up.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't see for sure, but there doesn't look like any PCGS logo on the lower right corner of the slab.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Yes, as @Ty2020b stated, 2 different coins:   And as @kanga notes, no PCGS on the slab corner. I sent Mr. Grumpy a note explaining but have not received a response yet... Edited by burfle23
02/09/2023 7:12 pm
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Moderator
United States
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I reported them as duplicate listing. lets see what happens now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
517 Posts |
I reported them both as counterfeit; both have been removed.
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Valued Member
United States
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Oh wow, I hadn't seen that they were in fact two different coins. That dissolves any benefit of the doubt that I was giving the seller earlier. Good work, Coincommunity!
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Pillar of the Community
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The "red flags" I see with these listings:
- For a zero-feedback seller, they sure seem to have a good handle on numismatic jargon. Most newbie sellers aren't that good at it. Which hints at either prior experience under another name... or copy-pasted descriptions from another seller.
- The slabs are identical numbers, but the toning on the coins themselves is clearly different - and therefore they are two different objects.
- The toning on the coins is very, very characteristic "Chinese fake". The one on the top/left has clearly visible brush-strokes, from where they painted on the artificial toning.
- Isn't that yellow shield to the left of the PCGS logo supposed to be glittery-gold print, rather than plain yellow?
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Posted 02/09/2023 5:55 pm
