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2022 D Nickels With A Large Die Crack. I Think.

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i have about a dozen 2022 D nickles with the same error (hard to see and I'm not the best photographer). I think it's a die crack, but it's not like others I've seen. the 'crack' is wider than usual and kind of... vague I guess, and it's not through what is normally considered a 'weak spot' so, not even sure it's a 'die crack'.



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If you are talking about the line over the first two, that looks like a hit not a crack.If it is the line on his head that looks like a scrape. Your pics are pretty good, but you need to filter your light source and crop pics better before posting them.
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it appears to me that the marks are caused from a coin rolling machine

i don't think so. the pics don't show it well, but the defect runs over jefferson, and seems to run under the '2022'. also it is in the exact same location on multiple coins. not sure if it matters, but these were from new rolls (not the same roll).



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If you are talking about the line over the first two, that looks like a hit not a crack.If it is the line on his head that looks like a scrape. Your pics are pretty good, but you need to filter your light source and crop pics better before posting them.


I'm talking about a single curved line that runs from the bottom edge of the coin (jefferson's right lapel) arcing all the way over to the last '2' in 2022, where it ends in a small blob over the 2. it is in an identical location and basically the same on each coin (10 coins I think). and the only thing I've ever filtered is my coffee. also, what am I supposed to crop? am I supposed to use coin-hugging images?
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also it is in the exact same location on multiple coins. not sure if it matters, but these were from new rolls

Ok, tell me this then are the marks raised or incuse? I do see the one 'under' the date, which would be the highest point of a die. So if on the die, I would expect it to be incuse on the die and raised on the coin.
Can you post up a few of the other nickels that have this for comparison?
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Ok, tell me this then are the marks raised or incuse? I do see the one 'under' the date, which would be the highest point of a die. So if on the die, I would expect it to be incuse on the die and raised on the coin.

the arc is raised, so the die defect would be incuse, but the odd thing to me is that the mark is over jefferson, but does not run 'over' the date. your explanation as to the highest point of the die may explain this though.


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Can you post up a few of the other nickels that have this for comparison?

yes, but i'll need some time (no cell phone and the new laptop is function free, if you know what I mean). i'll get more pics in a few...
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When you hand type the command for quoting, you don't need the slash (/) in the opening command just type [quote] to start it then the slash in the last command to end it..
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Hamilton? I think you mean to say Jefferson. All I see on this coin is hit marks and coin roller machine marks.
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additional pics


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Hamilton? I think you mean to say Jefferson. All I see on this coin is hit marks and coin roller machine marks.


derp. yup, I guess I have hamiton on the brain. lol. thanks...
the arc is raised, not incuse. I posted addition pics of other coins with identical defects.
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When you hand type the command for quoting, you don't need the slash (/) in the opening command just type [quote] to start it then the slash in the last command to end it..


i know... is there another way to quote? in most forums you can just highlight the text and click the quote button.
[EDIT]: found it. you have to make a full reply rather than a quick reply...
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So the marks are raised, which means that the issue lies with the die that struck these coins. That looks like a rim to almost rim die crack. (Future Cud, if you will)

And since you only highlighted the marks on the chest and under the date. I'll assume that you are not inquiring about the 3 curved marks on the first coin (the marks in the hair, above the ear and below the ear) on the left side of the coin could be, as I stated earlier, coin rolling marks.
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When you hand type the command for quoting, you don't need the slash (/) in the opening command just type [quote] to start it then the slash in the last command to end it..


yeah, sorry, I call it the " Ring of Death". I thought you were talking about the actual 'error' and I didn't see how that would work. all of the other stuff is PMD, bag marks, etc.
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These all look like the same die crack to me. Nice finds!
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Glad you posted better pictures, now I see what you are seeing.
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I can see it now with the additional photos - looks like a die crack to my eyes.
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