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New Member
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Does anyone happen to know the dates VDB is found on Lincoln pennies besides 1909? Thank you for your expertise.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's on all Lincolns. 1909 had some on the reverse, some on the obverse, all other years are on the obverse.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not quite. After the VDB was removed from the reverse in 1909, it was not restored to the obverse until 1918.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks, Coinfrog! I thought it was on all the obverse's after 1909. That shows you a very weak part of my Lincoln timeline knowledge.  Thanks again, for the correction.
-makecents-
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New Member
 United States
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I'm not sure I understand I've seen it on several different years and other years it seems like it's not there (under the shoulder) does it move?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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mojatas, refer to what Coinfrog said, I was wrong. 1910 to 1917 did not have VDB anywhere. You should see it on all other years though. Sorry for my ignorance, we both learned something today.  As for where, it is under the shoulder, at the west base of the bust, except for the 1909 reverse cents.
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Edited by -makecents- 02/18/2023 7:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coinfrog for the win... The very first Lincoln Cent of 1909 carried Brenner's initials in large, conspicuous letters at the base of the reverse. But outcry arose almost at once that this outsized "signature" was not only disproportionately large but also inappropriate simply as a matter of principle. Thus, the result is some 1909 Lincoln cents bear the V.D.B. initials, and others do not. The removal of the VDB initials created the 1909 "Plain," mintage 72 million, and the 1909-S, mintage 1.8 million. The 1909-S is also considered a key to the series in circulated grades Under public pressure, the U.S. Mint removed the offending letters soon after the start of production - after a mere 484,000 pieces had been struck with the initials at the San Francisco Mint. The "S-VDB" has been a highly sought after rarity ever since. Philadelphia produced almost 28 million 1909 pennies with the large V.D.B. on the reverse, and the Philadelphia V.D.B. penny version is relatively common. In 1918, the U.S. Mint restored Brenner's initials to the Lincoln Cent, but this time in a more discreet fashion, tiny initials under Lincoln's shoulder on the obverse. Its also on the 2009s and shield cents.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Coinfrog for the win... I was not looking for a win.... Just trying to help. Thank you, Coinfrog, for the help.
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Pillar of the Community
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here is a set of initials on a 1992 S proof . 
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: I thought it was on all the obverse's after 1909. yeah well, ya had to be there - right Coinfrog?   .. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Touche! 
Edited by Coinfrog 02/19/2023 09:46 am
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mojatas,  On the years they are suppose to be on, sometimes the initials get polished off of filled in with grease. John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Keep in mind they are incuse devices. (not raised devices) If they are missing, it is not because of a grease will, but polished off devices on the die. (Incuse devices on coins are raised devices on the dies)
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Pillar of the Community
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 to the CCF and 
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