1913 P Buffalo Nickel Type 2 Doubled Die Reverse / DDR -001 FS-1801

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Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 12:53 pm I bought this 1913 Buffalo nickel in the hope that it was more than what it is. It graded out at PCGS at MS-63. It arrived in the mail and really putting my my eye to the paces I realized it is the 1913 P Buffalo nickel DDR-001 FS-1801. My pictures are not the best but I believe it is a Stage A compared to what VV has on their site. There is a die marker that makes me know that it is the 001. There is a die dent above a between the letters C and A in AMERICA. As well as the connection at the bottom of the N and I and the connection at the top of the T and E in UNITED. Edited by Jim0815 02/25/2023 3:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff

coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 4:16 pm Tough call on this one. It maybe/may not be that DDO? Just can't tell for sure on this one. There is crispness of some of the devices (Indicating a fresher die strike) and some areas look like a partial Grease Fill on some of the devices. So it makes it hard to tell from the image match ups if it is, or if it is not a match. Spent hours on this and still not sure yet. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 4:24 pm Coop, I am terrible with taking pics with the coin in the plastic. I cannot get the angles without terrible glare. There were several markers on my coin matched but the one that gives me the most solid believe that it is the FS-1801 is the die gouge above and in between the C and the A in AMERICA as well as the gouge over the letter I. Edited by Jim0815 02/25/2023 7:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96445 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 8:48 pm don't think it is a DDO, but have a good look under the chin on the obverse, looks like a die clash there. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 9:21 pm @Dearborn, Coop made mention of a DDO but I think he meant DDR which this coin is. Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 10:04 pm I've had my eye peeled for this one. Excellent example! Congrats! Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 10:05 pm Thank you Stoneman, glad to have it. Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5775 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 10:38 pm Congrats Jim. Excellent looking example even if it wasn't the variety. Yours might be a later stage as there seems to be slightly less definition between the base of the 3 and the 1 on your coin.. (Coops comparison images make it easier to compare.) Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96445 Posts	Posted 02/25/2023 10:50 pm It is a nice DDR - I guess I got locked in on Coop's comment. did you check for the die clash under the chin? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 05:56 am Dearborn, I sure did. There is no die clash under the chin on this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96445 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 08:31 am OK, thanks for looking - I thought I saw something there, maybe it was a shadow... Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 08:35 am @Dearborn, look at the dot right of the word OF, the die scratches right of that dot are another marker match. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6114 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 10:45 am I ended up looking at one of these maybe six months ago. The one marker I found that seems to be definitive was a round die gouge just below and slightly to the right of the middle of the M in AMERICA. Your coin seems to show this, so I would lean pretty strongly towards DDR-001. Pretty sure there is at least one mis-attributed coin in the PCGS coinfacts images for this die so it is worth paying attention if using those images as they get a fair number of varieties wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/01/2023 1:07 pm Have you considered die 007? http://www.varietyvista.com/03%20Bu...3PDDR007.htm Hard to compare images when you don't have the coins in front of you? Note the Tops of the "UNI" image on Variety Vista? "TED" Some die markers can be on a die or it may be before or after the die event that caused the marker? So Trust the hub doubling first before markers. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 03/01/2023 3:58 pm @Coop, I did look at 007 but too many markers match up the the 001 for me to think it could be another attribution number. Report this Post to the Staff
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1913 P Buffalo Nickel Type 2 DDR-001 FS-1801