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2022 Mint Unc Set Packaging Error? Your Thoughts.

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Hi guys, I am fairly new to collecting, after reading through a few topics I decided to wait to post until I purchased a Magnifier to take pictures with, and now that it has arrived I have some proper pictures so you guys can help me judge. I got the 2022 Uncirculated mint set direct from the mint, and the Anna May Wong Quarter is missing, as well as a defect on the obverse of the Maya Angelou Quarter, on Georges lip, but different that the typical "lip Cud" error I have seen.

I don't know what to make of the lip defect, and as far as the packaging error I cant imagine that's worth much except maybe to someone specifically collecting that sort of thing. Anyway, what do you guys think?

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 Posted 03/07/2023  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I would send it back if it was missing a coin.
Also that is a Die Chip on Washington's lip, not a Cud.
Fairly common and adds no value.

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I'd send it back as well.
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Yeah that's pretty bad. Send it back; sets are still available so they can ship you a new one.
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These sets from last year had a lot of issues like that, but the ones that were posted here last year didn't lose the coin, it had shifted out of place.
I got lucky with mine, and I hope we don't see a repeat this year.

Anyway, if the coin is completely missing, I would send it back, but did you check to see if it just shifted?
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There has been other packaging errors such as two wilma mankiller quarters in the denver card and therefore missing one of the quarters that should be included in the set. There are also photos of sets with a coin shifted to elsewhere because they moved within the packaging so check closely - not missing coins.

There are people who collect packaging errors and sell pretty well such as the denver mentioned with two of the same quarters, but not sure about these shifted ones which indicates mainly more work needs to be done on the new packaging or quality control, even with the new dimples-indentations in 4 locations on the blister for each coin to keep the coin in place during transit and not rotate or shift. Some photos were posted here, along with the inspector #12 hanes commercial sorely needed at the mint lol.

http://goccf.com/t/425575#3668955

Edit: I was typing this when dearborn posted above.
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Cool thanks everyone for your input. I immediately ordered a new set when the first one arrived, just wanted to check in before returning the first set to the mint. Yes I am seeing throughout the internet mentions of the mint needing better quality control, I got a "W" unc penny still in the mint packaging (with the 2019 mint set) and it has numerous black specks and stain spots on it, I read that's likely water droplets that got on it before packaging, it makes me think this one for sneezed on then wrapped up and sent! Lol
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UPDATE:
Received the replacement 22 UNC set from the mint today, and I believe it contains my first "retained strike through." At first I thought it was debris inside the capsule but under the scope it appears to be a piece of wire struck into the coin, partially retained. You can see the impression of the part that broke off on the other side of the ER, as well as the piece stuck onto the rim and up to the edge of the E.

Am I correctly identifying this?
How rare is such a thing?
Is it worth breaking out of the set to keep/sell as an error, then I have to order yet another 22 UNC set? I will probably end up keeping it anyway as my first error discovery (assuming I have correctly identified it and its not PMD).
Thanks again for helping out the new guy!


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cannot tell from the images, is that raised or incuse? I know it is difficult to get images through the packaging, but there is a lot of glare, can you try again?
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Yeah I'll try to get a better pic, but it is definitely a thin piece pressed into the edge, rim, and the face between the rim and the E, where it broke off.
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hopefully these came out better

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but it is definitely a thin piece pressed into the edge, rim, and the face between the rim and the E, where it broke off.


The second category of struck-through errors is called "struck through and retained." These are coins which are struck through something and have the item partially or fully retained on the coin's surfaces. Some examples of things found "retained" include pieces of plastic tape, staples, copper wire, plastic, grease, pieces of random metal, steel washers, string, as well as many other things too numerous to list here. Retained struck-through errors are probably around 100 times rarer than non-retained.

In terms of value, such pieces are usually worth about five to 10 times more if it has the object retained on the coin. This is a rough guideline, and the value will vary depending primarily on how dramatic in appearance the retained item is.

Another difficulty usually precluding the release by the Mint of struck-through and retained errors is that the coin with the retained object then has to make it out of the mint without the object falling away from the coin. It will likely jostle about in a bag of coins or rattle against pieces of mint equipment, such as the counting machine — all of these things can potentially break the retained object loose and being in a sealed set is great if that is something retained in the coin.

https://www.PCGS.com/news/the-two-t...-error-coins

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