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My Latest Addition To My Celtics.

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Just wanted to share my latest addition, It's worn but that put it in my price range

A gold Corieltavi full Stater. Three line type, dating to the period 30-50 BC.
Obverse shows wreath with cloak and crescents.
Reverse shows disarticulated sinuous horse left, pellets and arms above, star below horse's head, pelleted sun below horse's body, triple dashed line below that.

18mm diameter
Weight 5.9grams.


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Fantastic, MetDet!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thanks Hondo, it's my first gold Stater. I purchased it from a detectorist and I love the fact it's registered with the British museum via the portable antiquities scheme.
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Nice one.


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Obverse shows wreath with cloak and crescents.


Thought these were derived from the Apollo obverses of certain Macedonian issues. As in:



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I was certain of that too Bob. I have put the description from the FLO at Derby. ABC reference is 1734


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Yet others I have shown it to have told me it's apollo.

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It is Apollo, but it gets described as a wreath and crescents. Van Arsdell does both:

805 - 11 (North East Coast Type)
OBV: Abstracted head of Apollo right
Identifying points:
1) spike with two crescents
2) small pellets near crescents and spike
3) wreath: leaves inwards
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Congrats on picking up a Stater. The design element abstraction is way cool on these.
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Great looking piece Kevin..
It must be sweet in hand with lovely colouring!

Being a Brit this is probably the only law in the UK that I feel is worthy!..Between the metal detectorists/ the archaeologists and the law...Works well and is quite unique!

Congrats on a super Celtic!
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That is a beautiful stater, MetDet71!

I am not into British Celtics, but it is interesting that this coin is so similar in design to contemporary Gallic staters (I'm into Gallic Celtics - I wish I had a stater to show you ...) Both British and Gallic staters must have had the same Macedonian prototypes. I wonder if development/immobilisation took place in parallel, or if British Celts borrowed the design from Gaul at a late stage, or if they had a continuous exchange of design ideas or impressions of what staters should look like (they most likely traded with each other). Or a mix of all that, perhaps.
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The British Celts copied the coins from Europe, which they also used. A few of the tribes were literally the same people. The British didn't produce any coins until after 120BC and no gold until after 60BC, when the Gallic Wars caused the supply from Europe to dry up. I don't think they had much idea what the original design was, so it gets even more abstracted.
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Very nice coin Kev, nice to see you posting coins again.
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Hey Ron! It's good to hear from you too.
When I get chance, I will sort out a few coins for you my friend.
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Very nice coin.


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Thought these were derived from the Apollo obverses of certain Macedonian issues. As in:


And great explanation of the evolution. Thank you!
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What a beautiful coin. Congrats.
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