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I've Researched Several Types Of Errors, But Thoughts On This 1972 Penny

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I've researched PMD and or PSD, grease filled, die capped, and various different errors and have seen different examples, but this one is interesting. The Liberty suggests that it's either PMD wear by rubbing part of the features off which I'm not leaning towards, or partial grease filled. The curious thing is it seems like it's also partially weak struck In God We Trust, but the In is just simply missing. It appears 5% to 10% off struck but the rim it's isn't damaged and the back is beautiful. I guess what I'm getting to is I've done a good amount of research and I don't know everything, but this is very noticeable with the naked eye and could be eye appealing maybe to a collector. Is it a premium coin worth getting checked out? Sorry for the long paragraph, just was trying to get some obvious things out of the way.
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 Posted 03/11/2023  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NEWmrMatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is offset, it could be grease or a weak strike or a tilted die or all 3. I'm thinking it's a tilted die causing the weak strike on the left and it is offset.
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 Posted 03/11/2023  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ooks like struck thru grease. from what is visible, most of your images run off the display from being over the board recommended 800 x 800 pixels size
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 Posted 03/11/2023  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NEWmrMatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And grease lol it's definitely got some things going on. Its off set for sure. Grease or tilted weak strike are my thoughts for the missing IN and weak missing liberty.
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 Posted 03/11/2023  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since the reverse looks normal, I believe this is a very slight MAD.
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 Posted 03/12/2023  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NEWmrMatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it also be a tapered planchet?
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Even with the info and links, thank you guys by the way, you see why I'm at a loss a little. If it was just off struck, then ok. If it was just the issue with Liberty, I'd definitely say grease filled, I got that too. Lastly, the God We Trust is, in my opinion, simply a weak strike. I'd take that as it is, but the In just plain isn't there. I've tilted the coin, magnified it, used different lighting. It's like the coin is really supposed to say God We Trust instead of In God We Trust. With grease filled, unless it is really really grease filled, there is some weak notice of the missing feature, and it bleeds over until the grease is gone like in Liberty if I understand correctly. I've just never seen a missing feature or grease filled so pronounced in such a small spot eliminating the In completely.
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Grease will cause for letters (devices) to not show. Partial or full.
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Gotcha. Do you guys think it's a premium penny?
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 Posted 03/12/2023  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has a slight MAD obverse along with a partially grease filled strike that obliterates some of the obverse legends.


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Its off set for sure


@NEW - read up on mis-aligned die strikes then you will have a grasp on the correct terminology.


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Do you guys think it's a premium penny?


Negative - there is no numismatic premium for the rather common issues here.

MAD start to have some slight premium when it is severe enough to crop off part of the legends. Grease filled strikes start to have some slight premium when about 50%+ of the devices & legends are missing. Your coin has neither of these.

Place it in a 2x2 as an interesting curiosity.
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Not "off struck" it is a minor MAD. Not even close to 5% "off struck",sorry. As to tapered planchet, we need coop to chime in.
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Agree, grease effects and a slight MAD.



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 Posted 03/13/2023  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NEWmrMatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @nickelsearcher will do. @barbette41 here's one I just found with missing letters.
I've-Researched-Several-Types-Of-Errors,-But-Thoughts-On-This-1972-Penny it's missing the I & B and most of the E.
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Lol I had a Coin that had a rim like this Rim Fin and you guys called it PMD, it looked just like this one. I could literally post a pic from the a site that shows an Error or variety and you all would say PMD. I really believe that.
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