Updated! My Honest Ebay Ad

$4 is $4. You still profited.

Let me be blunt.

Back off, Boogaloo.

Bio, you shyster you..

But even so, we *should* be kind to someone who has any undies in a bunch, because not only is it rather painful aggravating, but has great potential for embarrassment. The gentlemanly and ladylike thing to do in these situations is to avert one's eyes until someone.. unbunches. Then, of course, carry on like nothing untoward has occurred.

*cough*

weerdsteev.. I'll donate toward your meds ;)

At Walmart and Target, $4 gets you 30 days, but $10 is good for 90! I know this from personal experience!

Excellent We like honest sellers. And honest buyers. Just plain honest people

However, I beg to differ that you being an unsearched roll seller has no bearing on your posts. Our personalities affect what we say, and our personalities are affected not only by our upbringing and environment, but also by our chosen (or unchosen) career paths. The tone of the posts suggested someone who was deeply offended. And that is definitely NOT what anyone is here to do (anyone who is is summarily escorted off the field of play).

We don't do dissension, deceit, flame baiting, or anything else even resembling being degrading or offensive. In that, this forum is one in a million. You could definitely be forgiven for assuming the people here were just like everywhere else.. at least until you had the chance to read through a few of the topics here Which is really what you should do to get a good idea of the folks. Lots of people who like to have fun, but who are also extremely helpful. Experts who repeat themselves daily to new collectors and haven't gotten tired of it (yet! :). People who give of their time and expertise and don't ask for anything in return except the conversation and camaraderie of fellow numismatists.

So.. basically.. don't jump to conclusions about motives just yet.. read a little first, and get to know people a bit

I whole-heartedly support weerdsteev's ebay auction, how he ran it, and how he discussed it openly in this thread. We need more people like weerdsteev to expose the rampant fraud on ebay with so-called unsearched bank-wrapped rolls. All of these bank-wrapped rolls are searched and a subset of them are seeded with semi-keys/keys so it winds up in feedback and gets more buyers to buy into the fraud. I do not see at all how making $3 on a $36 auction is ripping anyone off. 10% profit is not that great, really. I wonder how much per roll the "unsearched bank-wrapped roll" sellers are making?

I also suspect that weerdsteev's auction may have had the desired effect: people read it and learned about bank-wrapped rolls and stayed away from them. This caused a downward trend in sales for a week or two. But I also suspect that now that weerdsteev's auction isn't running, most of the business (and naivete) will return.

I won't reveal it here publically, but I know for certain of at least one bank-wrapped seller who sells them as unsearched but they are most definitely searched and seeded. I'm sorry, but that is just the apex of a con right there. weerdsteev's honesty and exposure of the fraud is a breath of fresh air and I, for one, would love to see all of those bank-wrapped unsearched coin sellers be booted from ebay so that young folks getting into collecting won't get burned. It's time for bank-wrapped sellers to wake up and try to do something good for this hobby. How do you think most of these folks will feel when they buy these bank-wrapped rolls- like they had been had. Or suckered. And they can't return them because they'd lose money in shipping and it's not worth it. This is how we drive people OUT of the hobby. There will be no collector base 20 years from now if folks like "unsearched bank-wrapped" sellers continue to cause harm to the hobby.

And I say this with utmost respect for Bugaloo and other bank-wrapped sellers. I understand your need to make money, etc. If you want to sell coins and make money, do it honestly, take the time to take pictures of your coins (no stock photos!) and do some good for the hobby. The only reason to do bank-wrapped strategy is to hype up the possibility of keys/semi-keys that won't be present (or are seeded occasionally) and for the purpose of making a profit that might be bigger than if you sell them as regular rolls. That's greed, pure and simple and cons naive buyers and young collectors. It leaves them with a bad taste in their mouth about the hobby. Believe me, I left the hobby for more than 10 years because of cons like the bank-wrapped roll sellers. It is not good for the hobby.

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