1971 Lincoln Cent Doubled Die Obverse / DDO -003 Out Of Collar?

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Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 07:25 am I'm thinking this is DD0-003 not sure about the strike. Clash, broad struck possibly what are your thoughts on this coin. I think she's pretty Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 07:34 am @sbj, can you please include the diameter of this coin? Thx. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 08:37 am 11/16ths....? Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:05 am Ok sounds like it is time for you to invest in an inexpensive Vernier Caliper rather than the ruler or tape measure that you have now. 0.6875 inches is about 17.5 mm, but normal cents are approximately 19 mm in diameter. Broad struck coins should be even larger than that because they are stuck without the retaining collar. The collar also forms the rim, which is clearly visible on your coin. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:10 am They start at less than $10 on ebay. Report this Post to the Staff
Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:13 am Why is this coin a millimeter and a half smaller than it should be? And yes, my son's orange ruler is just that, an orange ruler. Lol Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:16 am Quote: Why is this coin a millimeter and a half smaller than it should be? I strongly suspect that it is actually a measurement error on your part, which is why I recommended that you purchase some proper measurement equipment. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:21 am It's smaller than the other penny's by 1/16 for what it's worth Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 09:26 am Hmm, that is odd then. The rim doesn't look mechanically damaged, such as from spooning or being a Dryer Coin. Can you please post a picture of the edge? I know this this will be difficult due to the curved surface. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 10:00 am Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95931 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 10:54 am Can you stack this coin on top of another 'normal' cent and get an image for us? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 12:55 pm The last image is showing a crease on the edge of the coin. That is damage, a flattening on that area of the rim. The DDO-003 Shows wider devices on the motto area: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...1PDDO003.htm I'm not seeing that on your coin. If that is on the devices over the area of the altered edge, it is probably just damage to the coin. The spread should exactly match the DDO-003 in order to be from that die. Note the spread on the centers of the devices. Also note how the spread shows a mark on the tops of the central areas of these devices that year. Damage to the coin turns it into a cull coin. So if it were a DDO / DDR, then the value would be reduced sometimes by 90% of the value of the variety. (Damage/Polishing/plating a normally unplated coin would also be the reason for a reduction of value) Original surfaces is expected on variety coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Sbglobal Valued Member United States 157 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 1:55 pm Thank yall for the information seriously I really appreciate it. Here are a few pictures and I tried to cover the entire coin but it is impossible. 17.8 won't cover 19 never ever but if it's damage that explains how 17.8 came about. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 04/15/2023 7:12 pm Looks like the rim has been rolled to create a wider rim. And as Coop stated, 003 has a very good spread. Not seeing it here. Report this Post to the Staff
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1971 Lincoln Cent DDO-003 Out Of Collar?