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Who Has Say On Errors?

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 Posted 04/20/2023  01:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Who is the final say in a DD or MD or DDD and who truly knows? It's strange to me when you research a DD this is exactly what they'd tell you to look for. According to this article posted below, my photos are a DD with slight MD. But according to members here it's clearly MD and nothing unusual. It seems like if no one has found your coin in the last then it's auto PMD, MD OR DDD. So I guess who is the final say to whether you have a mint error if none have been discovered? Does the mint announce these errors or do numismatist's decide?

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My photos:

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Who-Has-Say-On-Errors?
Who-Has-Say-On-Errors?

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04/20/2023 02:58 am
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your question does not make sense.
Errors, unlike grades, are not a matter of opinion, they are a matter of fact.
No one has the final say, the coin speaks for itself.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DBM then how come so much mixed input from people? And my question is very valid? According to the information from the 3rd picture, that's a DD with MD. Is he wrong or am I wrong? And if I'm wrong then I feel he's wrong also. The coin speaks for itself but some doubles I've seen are so subtle it could be argued all day. The only ones people are certain about is the 55, 69, and 72 which yeah are very clearly speaking for themselves.
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04/20/2023 02:17 am
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does the mint announce errors released to the public or is it all strictly up to numismatist's to decide? And if it is up to "coin experts" how many expert numismatists are there per coins minted every year? In 1955 only 0.00723% were doubled. Did the mint announce this error or did a lucky numismatist find the first one by luck? How can anyone (without working for the US mint) put a finger on unknown errors when the difference is so subtle on occasion.
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04/20/2023 02:47 am
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And DBM according to research done that nickel a DD with MD no questions asked but apparently it's just DDD and MD so I'm curious who is correct and why
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reno911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In short I'm agreeing with DBM.

With that being said, Your questions you have posed is confusing and quite loaded. Which photos are yours (only the last one)? Could you please post a full photo of yours, please. How are you trying to correlate those photos and whichever one is yours to the questions you are posing. What exactly are you trying to ask or tell people here? I'm being polite for others may ask you or say the same exact thing when they come online.
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04/20/2023 02:35 am
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might be loaded question but still valid. Who is final approval of a TRUE MINT ERROR? Does The Mint announce them or Numismatists decide?
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reno911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this your 1985 Jefferson nickel you still have a query about?
If you're assured you have what you have have it looked at professionally and appraised. Why beat a dead horse to coin a phase, I say this with the utmost respect. Or continue your question on the post you started unless you're attempting to get a different result.

As for your question(s), no one said THEY weren't valid, sure they are it's hasn't been posed correctly which can be confusing too and get the resolution you are seeking.
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04/20/2023 02:53 am
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm just genuinely curious who is the final expert in actually knowing if that's a mint error or anything else? Almost all DD's I've seen other then the obvious 55, 69 and 72 have all been fairly subtle
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never said I'm sure it is a DD. I said according to the information and research given to a new collector on what a DD is this looks exactly like it. But everyone says it's MD. So what's makes that such a positive ID for people?
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 Posted 04/20/2023  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reno911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, gotcha ya. They'd have to answer that for you. But if you feel you have what you have than take it to the next level and have someone physically appraise it. I wish you luck
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 Posted 04/20/2023  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first two photos for what? to show a very rare famous doubling?

The rest do not show nothing.. to close, to pixeled. I do not not see clear picture or the street you take.

"In 1955 only 0.00723% were doubled." WHO told you this?

Please be pointed and precise, no guessing.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look it up silv? They minted 330,958,200 no mint Pennie's in 1955 and 20-24,000 doubled dies were put in circulation.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First two photos show his explanation of true DD and MD, my photos show exactly the same explanation.
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 Posted 04/20/2023  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the pictures of his lips being doubled aren't clear to you then I do not know what to say silv lol insanely obvious
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 Posted 04/20/2023  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnewman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And to Reno's comment. So let's say I have a questionable MD or DD that's not been discovered or ever "claimed" I take it around to experts till one sees what I see. Now I have a "valid" DD and there's no choice but to agree?
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