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Weird Coin, Queen Side Only, No Date Cladding? Fake Coin?

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 Posted 04/24/2023  1:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rillionon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I got this coin in a roll. I did post in a fakebook group but that was actually inconclusive, but I weighed on the side of its not anything.
I would think Magicians coin if it looked like it connected to a second piece I was not in position of.

As you can see from the pic of the piece on another penny is only wraps half way on one side, and just touches the other side of the coin it is resting on. There is no way this completes a fake coin. Might still be fake, but not a hollow coin trick.

Now in a perfect world this would be a cladding that just did not take. But I figure it is just something I am not aware of, a gag of some sort for an unknown reason?

Or is it something? LOL
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 Posted 04/24/2023  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone's failed attempt at something.
There are no clad Canadian coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Depending on weight, the thin unit is a obverse brockage, the coin has a split in it ?
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Quote:
the coin has a split in it ?

Sure, looks like it to me
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@john100

No split, that is another coin with the weird coin on top of it.
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It looks like two pieces of play money glued together.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 04/24/2023  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the coin in question has 2 queens with one side reversed, and weight ?
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@john100

Yes, the "coin" is just the queen with the reversed side.

It weighs 0.84g

Here are some more photos of it paired with a whole coin. It barely covers the real penny.

Really too dangerous as a toy, would be sharp. Given the queen on it toy safety was on some level a thing.

If the "coin" covered the other penny, or looked like it even possibly connected to another piece at any time I would have just tossed the "coin" But it is just weird enough, and my knowledge is just low enough to at least negate any value. lol Can you imagine a few years later seeing one just like it sell for $$$, Hahahaha!!!!
I really cannot think of any use for this, maybe I just do not have a good enough imagination to think of what this is.

Just odd....
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Without a in hand look, best guess is a split planchet brockage and the marks along the edges are tools to release the stuck coin. Magician coins are two headed or tail units as struck coins not one side as a brokage, worth the trip to PCGS when you photo next time just use the normal coin side by side this would avoid confusion
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Hondo Boguss got it right.
It's not any kind of error.
That portrait is about as phony as you can get.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I'm with DBM. The 1st pic is a mirror image of a true obverse, note the legend is backwards Pic 2 is at least oriented correct, still pretty bad. Then pic 4 shows a reverse. You've got something special all right...a 3 sided coin. I wonder who got the chocolate from inside.
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It looks to me like the "brockage" is just a thin wafer of copper/bronze placed on the real coin and whacked with another penny on top of it. Without seeing it in hand, I'd say a home-made brockage.
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Your pics are confusing. Can you please post a pic of the obverse (front) and a pic of the reverse, and a pic of the edge? if you want to show a comparison coin, please place them side by side rather than on top of each other.
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How it fits on another penny is a large part of it is why I posted pics of it over the other coin. In my defense I did write in that post that they were pics of it paired with another coin. lol

I posted pics of both sides of the "coin" and the edge in my first posting of this, the first 3 pics are the 3 you requested.

Sorry, was not trying to be confusing. I tried to write details of the pics I was posting each time.
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I'll do some side by sides, though I am not sure it will show anything relevant.

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From the pictures supplied this coin looks to be relatively the same dia. as a normal one and the thickness appears similar also yet the weight is extremely low at 0.84 gr.
Is 0.84 gr the actual weight or is this a typo?

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