Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1910-S LWC - Metal Composition Question And Ed

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 11 / Views: 1,101Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 04/25/2023  12:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Wondering if anyone can chime in on what the percentages of tin/zinc might have been in the early Wheat days (and how they may have changed) that would preserve earlier ground-find Wheats far better than those a decade or more older.

I found this 1910-S metal detecting last week, less than 12 inches away I pulled a heavily corroded wheat that I believe is 193x - identical soil conditions. Similar depths lead me to believe they were dropped at roughly the same time.

Some brief research suggests that Tin is far more corrosion resistant than Zinc and assume earlier wheats may have had a greater percentage of Tin.

1910-S-LWC---Metal-Composition-Question-And-Ed
1910-S-LWC---Metal-Composition-Question-And-Ed
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19935 Posts
 Posted 04/26/2023  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NICE GROUND FIND! Looks to be AU. I must have not been in the ground as long or something protected....like luck. Who knows but all that matters is you scored!

The cent composition was the same to 1942: 95% copper, 5% tin and zinc
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 04/26/2023  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BT - I know the total of Tin/Zinc is 5% but found some reference to early wheats containing up to 4% Tin and that started tappering off to 2% Tin later on. A higher Tin content would surely contribute to better preservation over the long run - have just not seen definitive lit from the mint on the mix. Or maybe there isn't anything that precise in the alloy - just throw in what they had for fill at the time.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 04/26/2023  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And for what it is worth, I was somewhat shocked after a 20min Alkali wash (Sodium Sesquicarbonate) and a quick rinse. Here is the ground find.

1910-S-LWC---Metal-Composition-Question-And-Ed
Edited by DOCC
04/26/2023 03:06 am
Pillar of the Community
United States
797 Posts
 Posted 05/08/2023  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find and very nice conservation job!
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 05/09/2023  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx JT. Always exciting when an encrusted coin comes back to life with no corrosion.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19935 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2023  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I was somewhat shocked after a 20min Alkali wash (Sodium Sesquicarbonate)


Looks like it removed all the detail, OUCH! VC would have been a much better choice.
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2023  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell BT, can't really see any detail at the start but you could be right. But to remove detail I would assume that the patina would have been removed as well. What are your thoughts on that?

I've never tried VC but will give it a go. I sourced the Alkali method from museum preservation articles on ancient coppers. Seems to work well so far.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19935 Posts
 Posted 05/12/2023  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it had a lot of detail to me:

1910-S-LWC---Metal-Composition-Question-And-Ed

Now it's mostly a slug:

1910-S-LWC---Metal-Composition-Question-And-Ed
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Edited by BadThad
05/12/2023 3:36 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187851 Posts
 Posted 05/12/2023  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos are reversed in this topic. OP posted the after first, then the before for reference.

Correct order here:

http://goccf.com/t/445464#3844117
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
DOCC's Avatar
United States
1502 Posts
 Posted 05/15/2023  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx jbuck.

You were looking at them backwards BT, I should have been more clear that first image was after restoration.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19935 Posts
 Posted 05/15/2023  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DOH! No wonder I had the wrong impression - I'll try reading next time. LOL Normally we post BEFORE then we post AFTER pictures. Looks like is was a very successful conservation given the order was reversed!
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
  Previous TopicReplies: 11 / Views: 1,101Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums