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Uncirculated SBA Dollar In Intact Mint Cellophane With Mystery Scratch

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Any ideas about this coin
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Post strike, prepackaging damage. IMHO
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Any idea how they didn't catch it? Also as long as I leave it in the packaging does it do anything for it's value
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@lig, I think that this sort of damage, even if it definitely occurred at the mint, would decrease the value.
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Any idea how they didn't catch it?

These aren't proof sets. I really don't think the mint cares, what coins go into mint sets
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Do you see damage on the cellophane indicating it happened while inside? I've had mint sets with similar damage, maybe not that extreme, but apparently some of those old 70's and 80's mint sets get tossed around quite a bit. I am surprised they would have put it in the set like that, but I guess it happens.
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Looks like a representative example of what the mint produces, sadly.
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To cointree the cellophane has absolutely no damage over the coin it has a rub spot over the quarters rim where it got kinda pressed through. But I've completely scoured the packaging to try and find some damage that would explain it
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Poor quality control, lowers the value unfortunately.
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PSD (Post Strike Damage) for the scratch, the rim damage could be from the cello sealer machine when it cam down to seal the package.
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As stated above, they don't check anything that goes into mint sets. There is no way they can. If they checked everything that comes out of the mint, it would take them years to physically check one years production.
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There you go again Dearborn...thinking outside the box!
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the rim damage could be from the cello sealer machine

That's a good point. I would think that would be a better explanation than a mintage error and missing it during production.

Are coins actually packaged by the mint or another party? Is Liggett93's coin a mint package?
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There you go again Dearborn...thinking outside the box!


Naw, it is just a real BIG box I'm in - there is room to think in here
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Could this be why those mint sets looked terrible during that time?

...I wandered off into an adjacent room that had a large steel tank with a lid on it in the center of the room, and over in the corner a small cement mixer. Next to the cement mixer were several 100-pound bags of dried crushed corn cob.

I asked our guide what they were for. He said that up in the coining area the workers routinely sprayed a light machine oil on the planchets so that they would feed into the presses smoothly. Because the oil eventually discolored the coins, they would remove it before packaging the coins.

They would dump a bag of coins into a steel basket and shake it up and down in the tank, which contained a "de-oxy" compound I later found out was liquid freon. Then, to dry the coins, they would dump the coins from the wire basket into the cement mixer along with a few scoops of the dried crushed corncob and tumble them before packaging them.

That explained why the mint sets in the late 70's thru 1981 looked like heck. I wrote about this somewhere and the manure hit the rotary air circulation device. The Mint never admitted why they did it, but they did not issue Mint Sets in 1982 and 1983. When they resumed in 1984 the quality was much better.
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The packaging was sloppy too. I got one set that had piece of string in the floppy plastic holder embedded with the coins.
https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/34...early-1980s/
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Unlike the 1979 and 1980 SBAs, which were mostly struck for circulation, all 1981 dollars were struck for numismatic purposes only, and the entire mintage of 1981 SBAs was slated for collector sets. En route from San Francisco to Denver for packing in red-striped Denver mint set cellophane packaging, the 1981-S dollars were banged up in transit. Seems hard to get some of the coins in high grades-> https://coinweek.com/collecting-the...81-mint-set/
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