Please Help In Verifying Idenity Possible Value Please (Id: 1739 Spain 8 Reales)

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ICP78 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 04/30/2023 02:24 am Report this Post to the Staff

ICP78 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 04/30/2023 03:41 am I'm sorry I didn't post picture of other side my bad. Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6507 Posts	Posted 04/30/2023 03:47 am Weight please https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15066.html Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 04/30/2023 04:02 am Report this Post to the Staff
ICP78 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 07:19 am I'm aware that the weight of the coin should be 27 grams. I'm also aware that apparently the were some coins which fell short of the proper weight.Some moreso than others as if I understood correctly some of the mints workers were embezzling the silver.If I'm correct about that if anyone could give reference pertaining to what reales of 8 that were affected I would greatly appreciate your help. Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 10:54 am This is clearly a fake. The details of the design are not regal. Report this Post to the Staff
ICP78 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 05/05/2023 11:59 pm If you would please explain more as to why you believe that this coun is fake.I need to be able to explain to a friend what exactly you mean.Its weight is only 20.7 grams but I had read some were purposely minted light.Just had no idea if this could of been one of them.Please elaborate so I can explain to him.And thanks for your help. Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 05/06/2023 12:54 am Don't see anything that is saying it's fake off the bat, but lots of these coins are faked. Here are some write ups on some things to look for: http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com...-pillar.html https://www.numismaticnews.net/arch...can-fool-you https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/37...llar-dollar/ users here like colonialjohn and swamperbob have a lot more experience on these than I do, hopefully one will chime in. There are also contemporary counterfeits which can be collectable in their own right. The edge looks good to me, though to be sure an expert needs this coin in hand. It has a look of minor corrosion or heat damage (fire). which can be an attempt to hide problems relating to it's genuineness. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 6:06 pm I agree the coin is absolutely a fake. The weight of just over 20 grams is typical for this particular design that was sold to tourists. I have the identical coin in my collection of Modern Numismatic Forgeries. Sorry but ZERO chance this one is real. Report this Post to the Staff
ICP78 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 12:54 pm SwamperBob-Thanks for your cut and dry opinion.For educational purposes could you please post pictures of your "fake" coin?I'm totally new to this so showing me what your known fake coin looks like for myself would be invaluable.For if nothing else just having the pictures of your fake for comparison would be a tremendous help.I really would love learning about this in hopes to be able to better elaborate exactly why I believe your opinion that the coin is a "fake".Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 05/09/2023 02:35 am Maybe just a LITTLE homework, though? It's not a "fake", as the detail is too inexact to be intended to fool anyone. It is a commonly seen numismatic tribute replica. Compare to genuine. Note in particular the detail on the globes, the very thin pillars, the skinny lions... Aside from even those specific details, to anyone with a numismatic eye... from the overall style, "fabric", etc., this piece is a one-glance modern replica. Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 05/09/2023 02:37 am The correct approach is find examples of regal issues and then study the differences between them and your example. The big auction sites have many examples of these for you to view. Lol, as noted in the previous post! Edited by jgenn 05/09/2023 02:39 am Report this Post to the Staff
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