1980 S Proof Susan B Anthony Dollar / SBA - Streaks/Lines

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Linkthesink New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 5:33 pm Hello! I'm new here. I just came across this site, it's awesome! I'm not sure what these streaks could be from and was hoping somebody might be able to help me out. They are also somewhat visible on the reverse and go in the same direction. Sorry if the photos aren't great, I had to play around with my lighting to capture the streaks. I have several other SBA proofs, but none them have these streaks. I also wasn't able to find any other examples online. Report this Post to the Staff

Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 5:38 pm to CCF!! It appears to be roller lines on this proof on both sides, notice how the lines go in the same direction from both sides. These are well defined and I have not seen them this strong on a proof before. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Linkthesink New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 5:48 pm Thanks! I've heard of roller lines before I've never seen exactly what they look like. I probably would have never got this coin graded, but for future reference. Would something like this effect the grade? Do the marks detract from the value? Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 9:05 pm I have to not agree with my friend and well respected ( Dearborn) on this coin about roller lines. The proof planchet are polish specially for this kind of strike. So no more roller lines. From the strike I see on this coin, I doubt it is proof. but could be an proof like coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 9:52 pm I sure hope others will chime in. This coin has a nice cameo, one that a business strike should not have. If not roller lines then what? Notice how the lines are at the same angle on the obverse and reverse. Looking closely you can also see them through the cameo device. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 05/01/2023 10:46 pm I know DEAR, but I can not explain why only on the low relief? I just say maybe a DCAM or CAM business. I think this coin must be see in hand. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 08:51 am Quote: I think this coin must be see in hand. Well, that is one thing we can agree on.. If the mint had intentionally the devices frosts for a CAM or DCAM, then the roller lines could have been reduced by quite a bit. But I can barely see them on the profile. I cannot see them on the reverse device, but them the feathers and other details are quite possibly hiding them. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 12:36 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 1:45 pm If the planchet was rough, it may not remove these roller lines, even when they are struck twice. But the lines are at the same angle on both sides of the coin. So it is rolling lines. Report this Post to the Staff
Cointree Valued Member United States 449 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 1:55 pm That's definitely a proof coin. I am not aware that the US Mint made any cameo versions of a 1980 SBA in a business strike. I think the streaks may just be the haze that sometimes develops on these old proof coins, and maybe someone tried to wipe it off, or something on the original proof coin developed haze in that streaked way. I feel like I have seen that before. Perhaps a soak in acetone would remove the streaks if they are just haze? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 2:10 pm Thanks coop, I stand by my roller lines theory. But a nice soak in acetone might help. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cointree Valued Member United States 449 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 2:32 pm Maybe the haze develops along the rolling lines. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 6:49 pm I agree with Cointree. Just some hazing. Never seen roller lines on a proof. And as Silvio stated, proof planchets are specially polished. Report this Post to the Staff
Linkthesink New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 6:54 pm So I went ahead and did an acetone dip, figured I don't have much to lose. Coin looks exactly the same as before the dip. I'm almost certain it is a proof coin. Are there any lesser known qualities that may say otherwise? Would you consider this a rare error? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94925 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 7:15 pm Well, it IS a proof coin and I have never seen lines like this on aa proof (which I still think are roller lines.) is it rare? probably. is it an error? unlikely. Maybe we call in Mike Diamond to view it. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 05/02/2023 10:58 pm Dear if you want to call Mike do 'it, me I will not do for this coin. But I tell you I never saw rolling line as those. Physically could not happened. Edited by silviosi 05/03/2023 01:31 am Report this Post to the Staff
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1980 S Proof SBA - Streaks/Lines