1974 D Lg. Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC BIE And Repunched Mint Mark / RPM

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RobO411 Pillar of the Community United States 2404 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 3:19 pm On COC site there's only one other coin listed from the 70's. LDB6-1970D-001 SEHM a BIE located next to the T. This one has multiple. LDB-12345 plus but very hard to pick up 67 with camera. Sure looks like they tried to salvage the Die for thousands of more coins by grinding in the same direction as the crack. But maybe crack happened later. Coin also has a RPM. Couldn't find a match for it either. RPM looks like maybe D/D/D Southeast? Opinions are always waiting for. Thank you. Report this Post to the Staff

Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 3:28 pm I do see the lower split serif on MM very minor though. Another new attribution? The BIE seems very hard to see, but I don't have much experience with those yet. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 3:49 pm @rob, is the linear feature connecting the first several letters of LIBERTY a die crack or polishing line? I can't tell, despite your great pics. Also, that might be a slight circulation hit on the loop of the letter R rather than a die chip. I do agree with you that this is a RPM though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4405 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 5:07 pm The split on the MM is a damaged punch issue for the year. We have it listed in the temporary files on my website, it will be added to Wexler's site soon. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 5:42 pm As you stated, must have been in the early stages, Would be nice to see if it continued and got worse. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97379 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 5:53 pm Nice RPM, but if that is a BIE - it is very very small. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
RobO411 Pillar of the Community United States 2404 Posts	Posted 05/07/2023 10:14 pm Thanks Tanner for the info about the MM. Report this Post to the Staff
RobO411 Pillar of the Community United States 2404 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 10:15 am . @Spence. Yes the R did take a hit. I know that some dislike to many pictures but sometimes I think to let others see what's there up close to show what (might) be there. Hopefully these are clear enough to tell if it's a BIE or not. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 10:21 am Not seeing a BIE, at least in the customary sense. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97379 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 10:22 am Well, I'm not seeing a BIE in the new images. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19208 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 10:43 am Again, not seeing a BIE feature. Report this Post to the Staff
JC Stevens Pillar of the Community United States 538 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 4:29 pm Yes, it is an unlisted COC BIE, I'll check in Cohen's book and THE BIE HANDBOOK for it when I get back in town. http://cuds-on-coins.com/ii-f-multi...f-die-break/ Cuds-on-Coins http://cuds-on-coins.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 5:41 pm Remember that if there is a die crack connecting the letters of LIBERTY, that "counts" as a BIE. You can clearly see a linear feature connecting the L to the I and the I to the B and so forth. My question is whether that is actually a die crack or else something else, like a die scratch or die polishing mark. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 6:39 pm Why does a die crack connecting the letters of Liberty count as a BIE? I'm really curious - where is this stipulated/defined? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97379 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 7:53 pm I'm with Coinfrog on this. a crack, should be a crack no matter where it is, and a BIE is a die chip The rules seem a bit foggy on this. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
JC Stevens Pillar of the Community United States 538 Posts	Posted 05/08/2023 9:45 pm BIE-Multiple was first noted in both the "BIE Handbook" Edited by Howard O Hardy as published in 1972 and has the Hardy Index, link below. Hardy Index System: Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com) And in the 1969 edition of "THE CLASSIFICATION AND VALUE OF ERRORS ON THE Lincoln Cent" by Jean Cohen. Example of these can be found in the link below. II-F-Multiple: Numerical Order of Die Break : Cuds on Coins (cuds-on-coins.com) Cuds-on-Coins http://cuds-on-coins.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
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1974 D Lg. LMC BIE And RPM