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Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 05:48 am What could this be I have been told bag marks but I don't see how that could be because there are no abrasions and the mark in question is raised not gouged Report this Post to the Staff

Cointree Valued Member United States 449 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 08:34 am It does look unusual but the shape resembles Reed Marks too closely to think it is anything else. I think the edge of a coin hit pretty hard against the silver and pushed the metal up in this shape. It is hard to see, but my guess is it is also indented just below or above this raised mark. There are also some smaller Reed Marks just to the right of this on the arrows. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 11:54 am I'm not sure what that serpentine shape is - never seen Reed Marks like this before. It sure looks raised. Can we get more images from different angles, and include more of the area closer to the shield. I think I see more of this feature on the inner arch of the wing too, but there it look incuse. you do have Reed Marks on the arrow tips though. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 2:12 pm Quote: I'm not sure what that serpentine shape is - never seen Reed Marks like this before. It sure looks raised. Can we get more images from different angles, and include more of the area closer to the shield. I think I see more of this feature on the inner arch of the wing too, but there it look incuse. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 2:18 pm When you quote somebody, you need to'close' the quote. Your quote at the start is correct. But to close out a quote type in this: [/quote]. Anyway thanks for the extra images. If I didn't know any better, I would say that this looks like the edge of the feathers of the wing Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 2:25 pm Could this be like a dropped letter but just the edge of the wing instead? Or a strike through of something from previous strike that dented the die for the strike on this coin? (I'm just spit balling here) Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 2:25 pm Quote: When you quote somebody, you need to'close' the quote. Your quote at the start is correct. But to close out a quote type in this: What would the chances of it being bag marks because I also measured with calipers and this anomaly should have two more waves in it for the distance the reeds are apart on a Kennedy half dollar along with the no scuff marks or anything would you think that it might be a dye clash or maybe that's the wrong term for what I'm thinking And there's another thing I didn't know if you noticed there is good separation right down the middle which I thought was another indication that it wouldn't be bag marks but I don't know for sure Is this something I should send in and get graded as an error take a chance on it? And thank you for helping me out Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 3:42 pm Looks like a struck-thru to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 3:54 pm No, I don't think you would get the results you are wanting with grading. (at least not yet) We need to figure out what it is first. a site like Cuds on coins might be able to help. but lets see what others have to say first. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 6:20 pm Looks like Reed Marks too me. Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/18/2023 8:02 pm Quote: Looks like Reed Marks too me. There's too many things that go against it being bag marks (Read marks) The surface of it is raised there are no scuff marks and there is separation right in the middle and the length of this anomaly is longer than four reads wide of a Kennedy half dollar Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/20/2023 04:29 am After observing this photo I'm 99% sure it's the eagles wingtips is this called a die clash because I thought it was supposed to be an impression of the opposite die onto the other Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/20/2023 04:40 am After further analysis and pictures from different angles I'm pretty sure I figured it out. I believe it's called strikethrough, or I don't know the word for it but leftover piece of broken dye from the eagles wing tips Report this Post to the Staff
Fresh Find Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/23/2023 08:35 am @Dearborn I am 95% sure you're right about being the wingtips How would this happen and is the error called die clash because it doesn't seem like it would actually fall into that description due to it being on the same side that it was originally on Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6452 Posts	Posted 05/23/2023 08:59 am It does certainly have a similar pattern to the first or second row of feathers, or perhaps the leaves in the left talons. It doesn't seem to match any features of JFK's face or the obverse, so I am also curious to learn why it could be a die clash. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/23/2023 10:30 am Could be damage from another coin from the same year. Thus the damage was transferred to this coin. Not a premium it the coin is just post struck damaged. The shield is also show some damage there as well. Report this Post to the Staff
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