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 Posted 05/21/2023  11:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add doctorman1941 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Why would a seller list this penny for 200 dollars US.https://www.ebay.com/itm/134423985258?
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 Posted 05/21/2023  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's rare to find it in change in Stone Mountain, Georgia?
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 Posted 05/22/2023  12:29 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because he can?
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 Posted 05/22/2023  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the "worthless coins being sold on ebay for big bucks" are for cashless money laundering purposes.

It goes something like this. Criminal A gives Criminal B something illegal (proceeds of crime, illicit substances, unlicensed weapons, etc). To facilitate paying for it, Criminal A also lists on ebay a worthless coin for the price specified, telling Criminal B the item's description to look for. Criminal B "buys" the coin, paying for it on Paypal or whatever. Criminals A and B both now have "money from sale of rare coin" on their books, as far as law enforcement and the tax man are concerned. Whether Criminal B ever actually gets the coin in question is irrelevant, as Criminal B never actually wanted the coin in the first place.

It's allowable on ebay because coins under $2500 are not required to comply with ebay's strict coin-selling requirements (must be slabbed, etc). If more than $2500 needs to be transferred, then multiple "coin sales" must take place, or some other method of money transfer is chosen.

Of course, if some innocent bystander were to happen see the coin listed for sale and bid on the coin, all the better; Criminal B would get their ill-gotten goods for free, and Criminal A doesn't care, so long as somebody pays them. But the whole thing is supposed to fly under everybody's radar, unnoticed. The only people who would notice "there's something fishy here" are coin collectors who know that a worn, damaged, unremarkable coin with fuzzy pictures and no description explaining its rarity shouldn't be worth that much. And we're supposed to just ignore it as a crackpot asking moon money for a worthless coin, rather than go and blab about it on an open Internet forum.
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No return privileges, h-m-m.
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 Posted 05/25/2023  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that Sap. Never though of that before.
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I have often read that ebay policy is far too lax.

It seems to me that ebay may be slowly digging a 'hole' for itself,
unless some sort of fundamental and drastic reforms are carried out,
more in line with traditional mainstream public auctioneers of the highest standards, such as Heritage.

As Sap has suggested, I suspect that currently, far too many criminals are using ebay for laundering purposes.

It also seems to me that as far as coin collectors are concerned, too many fake and counterfeit coins un noticed, are finding their way into collections of less experienced coin collectors.
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 Posted 05/26/2023  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jess1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is fascinating! So good to know! Thank you!
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