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Chop Marked Trade Dollar, Too Much?

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I have been trying to find a slabbed Trade dollar with chop marks. Do you guys think this one is too heavy on the chop marks to buy?


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For me, one or two chop marks OK for Trade dollars.
They can help to tell a story about the coin
When they obliterate the design, not OK for me.
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Way too many for me!
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Too many for me as well
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It's Interesting from the historical standpoint. The change of hands, what it was used to purchase, its travels. From that stand point I can appreciate overly chopped trades. From the numismatic side....too many chops. In my eyes is still a details coin. I could never bring myself to pay the premiums on that. Purchase it for the cost of a low grade details coin, sure!
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What is the date?
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Listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/275781469254
Examples like this make me question why. If it was done to give it their stamp of approval, after so many merchants already did so, what was the point of adding another one? Advertising?
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Examples like this make me question why. If it was done to give it their stamp of approval, after so many merchants already did so, what was the point of adding another one? Advertising?


The chop mark was done to detect counterfeit metal. They used a punch and a hammer to imprint their stamp on the coin. When the punch was hit, they could feel the resistance of different type of metals, and they could see fresh silver where their stamp was placed.
The amount of chop marks could be their lack of trust and their stamp of approval.
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@Slider23 I understand that, but in this case the most recent merchant didn't trust 20+ previous merchants who already did that. I find it curious.
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I had read that counterfeits of silver were a problem for the Chinese merchants. I would not be surprised if different types of counterfeit silver coins were in circulation with chop marks.
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The 1874 S TD was a date that was well traveled in China and is readily available with chop marks. The chop marks on this date do not add any premium and might be a negative in value. The ebay asking price is about double on where I would value the coin. Pass, unless you can get a substantial discount off the asking price.
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What do you think? Do you like &?

Too many for me.
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I'm looking to replace this one I have in my type set.
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I like 0 chop marks on my Trade dollars. I always pass when I see those. But, some folks like the Chinese trade history.
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An unobtrusive chopmark adds a certain panache to a Trade dollar. It demonstrates that it's been there and back, which IMHO accentuates the history of the coin.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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chop marks are ok, but within reason - the coin above is not within reason (far too many and distracting.)
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