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1943 Five Cents Die Break

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 Posted 03/23/2009  5:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add akglen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was sorting through some uncatalogued Canadian coins this weekend and found two five cent pieces that seemed interesting. One was a '22 for which I opened a topic on the flat vs concave question and this one.
It looked strange so I took a picture to get the details and noticed the crack from shoulder to rim and the one through the C to the rim. Just thought it was interesting and wonder if this is common?
1943-Five-Cents-Die-Break
1943-Five-Cents-Die-Break

And then I had to go to my catalogue to find out that on the reverse, rather then denticles there is what I would call Morse code around the rim with the message; "We Win When We Work Willingly."
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 Posted 03/23/2009  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an example of the die beginning to deteriorate. Another couple thousand strikes and there is a strong possibility that a piece of the die might have broken off, creating what is known as a " Cud". A Cud photo:

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/...02060024.jpg
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 Posted 03/24/2009  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom of the neck seems to be a stress point on this die- I have seen several over the years that have diebreaks from the bottom of the neck, and most come from the point of the bust, or close to it.
Dies were often used until they broke apart. The damage on the reverse side does not seem to go through any major feature, possibly a weakness in that die- improper annealing?
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 Posted 01/13/2011  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flipcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes its a die break now I have to recheck those nickles again .?
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