1913 Type One Doubled Die Reverse / DDR Buffalo- Which S Correct PCGS Or NGC Site?

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roach Valued Member United States 364 Posts	Posted 06/12/2023 3:59 pm Hi All! I recently came across what I believe to be a 1913 Type one DDR (doubling of E Pluribus) and I was looking that variety up on PCGS and NGC and noticed they both list them but NGC says FS-802 and PCGS says FS 1802...? It appears they are the same. My Cherry pickers (an older version) doesn't have this variety listed at all. So which one is correct? or are there two distinct varieties that just look exactly the same? https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...1938/816154/ https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-1802/605980 Report this Post to the Staff

Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 06/12/2023 11:29 pm They are both the same variety, Ive always known it as FS-1802. How about some images of the coin in question? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95280 Posts	Posted 06/13/2023 7:33 pm yep, Ty would be correct here, But what I don't know is who assigned both designations. Also, can we see your buff? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
roach Valued Member United States 364 Posts	Posted 06/13/2023 10:02 pm Here are some pictures of mine, its very difficult to make out the doubling on the Pluribus Unum in the pictures though Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95280 Posts	Posted 06/13/2023 10:50 pm nice looking nickel. thanks for posting. I can see some of your DDR Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
roach Valued Member United States 364 Posts	Posted 06/15/2023 8:17 pm I guess I don't understand how they can both (NGC and PCGS ) have the same variety listed as two different FS numbers.....The numbers are Fivaz-Stanton numbers assigned by them , not PCGS or NGC so one of them has to be wrong, they can't both be right.....Does anyone have the actual cherry pickers book that has this listing in it? if so, what does it list it as? My inclination is to think NGC has it wrong, they have had a lot wrong lately.... Report this Post to the Staff
mgf1439 New Member United States 2 Posts	Posted 05/23/2025 09:39 am Hi, I realize I'm about 2 years late to this conversation but I just ran across this issue myself. I have the 6th edition of the Cherrypickers and this is what I believe happened: Cherrypickers listed the variety as a Type 2 Nickel. It is not. But the naming convention for type 2 coins dictates that an extra digit be added to the FS number. i.e. a Type 1 DDR should be FS-802 but there could also be a type 2 DDR and it would be FS-1802. So Cherrypickers lists it as 1913 5C Type 2 DDR FS-1802. Cherrypickers made the error, and NGC corrected the naming convention so that it is appropriately listed as FS-802. PCGS just calls it a 1913 5C Type 1 DDR FS-1802. Which by FS naming conventions, should not exist. I emailed cherrypickers just now and will see what they say. Report this Post to the Staff
mgf1439 New Member United States 2 Posts	Posted 05/23/2025 09:44 am Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5663 Posts	Posted 05/23/2025 09:49 am to CCF! Great explanation! Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187950 Posts	Posted 05/25/2025 1:53 pm to the Community, mgf1439! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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1913 Type One DDR Buffalo- Which S Correct PCGS Or NGC Site?