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1990 P Lincoln Memorial Cent WDDR-012 Found CRH (Second Example Known So Far).

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1990 P LMC WDDR-012 found coin roll hunting. It's in a slightly earlier stage than the plate coin that I sent in to be listed on doubleddie.com. It's missing the two die cracks in UNITED in USOA.
http://doubleddie.com/398701.html
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Congrats on the listing and finding the spare.
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nice find, but Can someone tell me why these are considered doubled? I mean it is not parallel to the column (if that is what it is supposedly doubling) and they are usually very short and mostly centered vertically next to a column.
I'm more inclined to consider this a die dent if anything.
I'm only asking because I just don't know or understand this type of doubling.
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Congrats on the listing and finding the spare.


Thank you Petespocket55! Took me a while to find a second one, but it eventually popped up. There's definitely more out there.

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nice find, but Can someone tell me why these are considered doubled? I mean it is not parallel to the column (if that is what it is supposedly doubling) and they are usually very short and mostly centered vertically next to a column.
I'm more inclined to consider this a die dent if anything.
I'm only asking because I just don't know or understand this type of doubling.


Here Dearborn. I believe that this is a class 9 Doubled Die. You can read up on it on error-ref.com.
https://www.error-ref.com/doubled-dies/
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Very nice, x2!
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Congrats E&V!
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Class IX is basically a single hubbing double. When the slightly conical die is pressed into the hub, it is initially seated just slightly off. The enormous pressure of hubbing causes the blank die to suddenly pop or shift into the correct position, leaving a doubled image. Probably the best known example is the central tree doubling on the 2005 Ocean In View nickel.

Class IX certainly isn't as dramatic as earlier forms of doubling. But current single squeeze die-making has eliminated basically all earlier forms of doubling that depend on two sequential misaligned hubbings. The only exception is where the operator realizes a misalignment, stops the process, aligns the die, resumes the process. And I am guessing at the mint, they will know immediately to evaluate that die for doubling and probably trash any extreme examples.

Having said that, is this a Class IX? Single squeeze hubbing wasn't in use until later than 1990. Although that does not really prevent a slightly misaligned die from popping into place during hubbing on an earlier process. I assumed this would be VIII: Tilted Hub or V: Pivoted Hub.
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Oh, and congrats on the find! =)

What you guys are able to pick out CRH is really impressive.
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Thank you -makecents-, southsav, and Brandmeister! I am not exactly sure what class of doubling it would be. My guess was Class 9, but I could be wrong.
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Thank you jbuck!
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Here Dearborn. I believe that this is a class 9 Doubled Die. You can read up on it on error-ref.com.

Thanks E&V.
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