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Does Anyone Recognize? My Grandfather's Collection I Inherited (Id: Lead Seal For Academic Medal)

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 Posted 06/28/2023  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an old academic achievement medal. I wonder why it's so beat up around the edges, though.
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I have two theories, depending on how large it is.

If it's small, then it's probably a "lead seal", or at least a test-stamping of a lead seal.

If it's large (and I assume this is the case), it's probably a "lead pull" of some kind of award medal.

A "lead pull" is where a die-maker has made a die but not hardened it; in order to show off the proposed design to the client, a test strike is made in a soft metal like lead (it has to be soft, since the die is not yet hardened). If the customer likes the look of it, the die gets hardened. If it needs editing, no worries, the die hasn't been hardened so some editing or touching up is still possible.

Lead pulls are always uniface (one-sided), as only one die at a time is tested.

This is from a private mint that made medals; coin-striking mints can sometimes make led pulls as well, when a new design is being tested. At our coin club the other night, someone brought along some very scarce 1936 lead pulls of the proposed Edward VIII and early George VI obverse portraits. Very interesting stuff, though one wonders how such scarce and historic pieces ended up in some guy's shed in Toowoomba, on the far side of the world from London where they would have originated.
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Thank you for some very interesting info SAP.

I was thinking the design was of some kind of family crest consisting of a sword handle, a crescent moon,
a quill pen, and an oil lamp (middle eastern influence, ie: "Aladdins" lamp?
(Almost looks like two cultures coming together.)

The diagonal sash on the center shield seems to have three designs on it, of which the bottom one reminds me of a flower or a thistle.
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It's the exact same size as a 3 Cent nickel
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If it's small, then it's probably a "lead seal", or at least a test-stamping of a lead seal.

That make sense and would explain the rough edges if it was being used to make an impression on wax.
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The Aladdin's lamp represents knowledge and learning, the test tube is science, the quill is writing, but I don't know what the moon represents . Basically, academic subjects. When I was a kid, I'd get certificates with the Aladdin's lamp on them.
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Ok thanks for the info
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